NRM: Moving stock around

This could fit better in the NRM area but that seems to be exclusively for NRM offical posts so I'll ask my question here.

Essentially I was wondering how stock is moved say from the workshop to Station Hall. Doesn't this involve running over NR metals? If so how are the vehicles moved and what sort of restrictions are involved in their movement? Or is it just done by road somehow and are vehicles on either "side" of the NRM essentially isolated from each other?

And another thing - I've always wondered how say a King is moved onto and off a turntable when not in steam. For example say I want to get 6000 out of the Great Hall. Do I need 2 locos - but what if the road opposite is occupied? Are the loco and tender moved separately? This has something that has always puzzled me and someone on here must know the answer.

 

Some stock is moved by road - the old, small, fragile or stuff that will not pass a Fitness to Run exam. It gets loaded in the car park on the Great Hall side and is carried over to be off loaded by the Interactive Learning Centre which has a line into the South Yard.

Bigger stuff or main line registered items move via Network Rail from the North Side to South Side and vice versa, and also to and from the Carriage Works where we load and unload the big locos and bogie vehicles, and stuff too high to go under the Leeman Road Bridge - after Ultrasonic Axle Testing and a basic Fitness to Run. A registered main line loco is put on either end of the vehicles and the vehicles are either braked themselves or through piped and run as swingers. Currently 08 911, 09 017, 55 002, D6700 and 47 798 have been used for these purposes - as was 60009 when 60008 was tripped across to the workshops from the Carriage Works.

If you want to move the King out, then it will be pushed onto the turntable by a fork lift and turned, a shunter will then pull it out. If there is room on the table, and the road opposite is clear then yes, the shunter will go on and pull the loco. We used to use a locopulsor, which is like a motorised wheelbarrow with a buffer on it to shift locos, but it wore out!

 

Thanks Anthony I was hoping you'd respond. A fork lift? One way of doing it I suppose.

 

Remember it well from the early days of the NRM.

I see the SRPS have got one:
Motorised Shunting Unit

but I didn't know the design went back to the 1940's:
http://youtu.be/dQ5GVm0_iwg?t=3m46s
(fast forward to 3'46'' if the link doesn't do it for you)

Mind you, you can't used them on everything. If you want to move "Mallard" backwards, you find that the front end of a streamlined A4 just doesn't have anything to stick the LocoPulsor under. Well, nothing that was strong enough anyway.

Richard

 

Thanks Anthony I was hoping you'd respond. A fork lift? One way of doing it I suppose.

 

Been having a look around. You can get some quite sophisticated kit now. ZAGRO Bahn- und Baumaschinen GmbH

 

What happens if a Loco won't fit under the Road Bridge on a loader and is out of gauge for NR ?, using 6000 again as an example, which I assume is still 13'5, no way is that going to be allowed under the wires, do the chimney and safety valves need to come off, or is there some exemption I'm unaware of ?, I can't remember if that Chinese loco is still in the Great Hall, but I assume that would have to have the boiler off were it ever to move ?.

 

This is what we use at Bournemouth depot to move carriages around, good bit of kit!

Power Pusher® | Power Pusher® | Products

 

I think I'm right in saying that 'Deltic' is usually displayed without her horns as with them she won't fit under the wires at York or through the doors at Shildon.

 

When the King came in, it was cab roof, safety valves and chimney off. Deltic is indeed out of gauge with horns and steps fitted.

Other stuff has had to have dome covers and chimneys removed - like 1621 when she went up to Shildon, or the Stirling Single.

The Chinese loco WON'T move. Ever.

 

How was it got in there in the first place?

 

Antony, when your moving locos and rolling stock, around the site, do you do it unbraked or with the vac up? i have always wondered, i should imagine that any engine that has been a working engine recently would still be capable of maintaining vac presure, so could in theory be shunted as part of a braked movement but whatabout engines that get transfered between shilton and york, do they have to have a full brake inspection including vacuum test or get through air piped and run un braked? i assume your 47 and 55 are duel firtted?

 

Low loader then railed in, but the wires weren't up in those days

 

Thanks Martin, it depends on what is being moved. If a loco is being moved York to Shildon or vice versa, and is vac fitted and its vac gear works, then it goes as a braked vehicle with a fitted head if necessary. If the vac is unfit, as Cheltenham was and 60008 was, they get through piped on the air for a yard to yard move.

When Tornado took Mallard to Shildon, Mallard went as a swinger with a through air pipe due to DBS not running vac. Yes, the 37, 47, 55, 08 & 09 are all dual brakers.