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Health & safety would have a fit!!!

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door neildimmer, 13 mrt 2013.

  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Evening All

    I have added a couple of photos taken by Alan Costello of 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley with
    The A4 Locomotive Society Ltd 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley on tour on the Southern 4-6-1967

    Imagine Health & Safety seeing this today
    4498 Sir Nigel Gresley backing up to Weymouth shed
    The A4 Locomotive Society Ltd 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley on tour on the Southern 4-6-1967 - Railway-Photography's Photos | SmugMug
    also
    4498 at Weymouth
    The A4 Locomotive Society Ltd 4498 Sir Nigel Gresley on tour on the Southern 4-6-1967 - Railway-Photography's Photos | SmugMug

    Neil
     
  2. David-Haggar

    David-Haggar Member

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  3. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    But that's how it was in those days, I travelled on several railtours in the last days, 2 S&D closure tours in particular had us wandering all over the track every time we stopped for water or change locos, and apart from scraped knees from tripping over sleepers or rail whilst looking through 'brownie' viewfinder, no one got hurt....
     
  4. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    I wonder what happened to the N.E. & R. From the tender?
    Neil



     
  5. Black Jim

    Black Jim Member

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    Cant understand what the problem is Niel, as is said above , thats how it was in those days. People knew where an engine was then without the need to be told , & they were'nt about to jump under it as it passed them!

    The h&s industry these days is making a lot of money for a lot of people to state the bleeding obvious!
     
  6. ADB968008

    ADB968008 Guest

    I was thinking that the lack of lettering/adequate signage on the tender would cause HSE nightmares.
     
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    53807 New Member

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    Or to justify their job.
     
  8. tor-cyan

    tor-cyan Well-Known Member

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    Can we please stop blaming the HSE for all the rules and regs that they have supposedly fostered on us. The HSE don't make rules they make recommendations, its the insurance industry that turns these recommendations in to clauses in there policy's. so its nothing to do with H&S but every thing to do with litigation avoidance.
    And how do I know?
    I have spent the last 35+ years working at Height (more that 2m of the Ground) and in that time the H&S recommendations have changed very little, mainly safe working practice's and equipment recommendations. yet my insurance company insists that I now carry almost double my body weight in safety kit, including steel toecap boots and high vis jacket in case I get hit by a fork lift, (you see a lot of them 30 m off the ground running around in roofs). so I have to pay out on all this extra safety equipment, yet has my insurance costs gone down? I think you all can guess the answer to that one!

    try looking at the HSE web site and read the myth buster section for a better understanding of H&S HSE: Information about health and safety at work

    Cheers
    Colin Green
     
  9. Enterprise

    Enterprise Part of the furniture

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    Not really so as the way the 1974 H&S at Work Act was implemented meant that over regulation would follow as surely as night follows day.
     
  10. ADB968008

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    I'm sure the insurance industry will blame the legal profession, and the they will blame the government, who will blames the publics desire for compensation, who blame the HSE who blame the insurance industry...
     
  11. damianrhysmoore

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    Insurance premiums have risen as we became more litigious. The removal of much legal aid and replacement by 'no-win-no fee' has increased litigation since it allows solicitors to solicit business in a way they didn't before. It has also added those costs into insurance premiums rather than the taxpayer. There is a general change in attitude towards 'accidents' in that people involved in accidents big or small in the past would be regarded as unfortunate rather than the victims of somebody else's incompetence. This is partly driven by the need to prove incompetence by somebody else, in order to claim insurances etc. Perhaps it's partly driven by the fact we communicate so much more via TV and the internet and can see how common accidents were/are, so got scared. There are definitely unintended and unfortunate consequences but perhaps fewer limbs lost and people living out their old age attached to machines to help them breathe etc
     
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    The man on the extreme left, between the two running lines, might just be an official look-out, while what appears to be a home signal is set at danger right by the people.
     

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