help us save these cranes before there lost forever!!!!

In that case surely you would ask another member to help word the posts to make them more credible or use a spell checka!

 

ah leave it out, the guy is just trying to save some cranes, good luck to him too

 

actuality i am dyslexic and have bin all my life but i have no problem with it only others do, any way what has spelling got to do with saving our heritage after all the people who built this country barely could spell only signing there names with an x but look what they could make.I do my best when posting on here and forums , I have learnt to accept criticism on the chin as I said it is others who have the problem with disabilities ...Alex

 

Keep on posting Track_Basher (Alex) and do let us know what happens with the cranes. For what it is worth I passed on the info to a couple of heritage railways I am a member of after seeing your post. The cranes do not meet their requirements but it was worth a go. I do hope you are able to negotiate some kind of delayed payment with the current owner so you can get your hands on one for your own project.

 

There you go "tonymay" & "jtk" stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

I think that the OP wants them for his own railway. Although I admit it is unclear.

 

hello well we would like them but the curent owners wont £15.000 for the 10t and £8,000 for the 6 could be nagoated. it would be nice if any railway could save them were drastically out funds. and this be a cring shame as i really do not want to sea them cut up.

 

it's a big problem in these days of high scrap values, same thing with Classic Cars...many are worth more as spares with the shell etc weighed in

 

Somewhat off topic but one wonders how many of these so called "classic cars" sitting in garages will ever run. Assuming Track_basher was to raise the funds to save these cranes what would he do with them? Has he got a volunteer team standing by with the wherewithal to maintain them to the required safety standard? Possibly useful they may be but wouldn't he be better putting the team to work on projects far more germane to his railway's day to day operation? I wager 99% of lifting operations he might get involved with would be more cost effectively done using hired in road cranes.
Where was he when the SVR offered a large railway steam crane for sale at pretty much its scrap value?

 

As I've pointed out earlier, the NYMR finds very regular use for a similar machine to these in its C & W yard, and some jobs grind to a halt when it isn't available. If they had to use hired-in cranes all the time it would cost a fortune, even if all the yard was accessible to such a crane -which it isn't. A large steam crane on the other hand would be far less useful, it takes up a lot of space, requires steaming before it can be used and isn't really suitable for being used as a yard shunter, unlike the diesel crane. Most of the time it is objects of 1-2 tons being moved around. Although I'm describing the NYMR C & W yard here, I would imagine the Shillingstone site offers similar opportunities, so I for one don't blame them for wanting to acquire it. If they fail, the NYMR is looking to dispose of some cranes from New Bridge yard that might be cheaper to acquire but might need more TLC.

 

The BHR has a small diesel self-propelled crane often used for small shunting moves, lifting operations, it's really good.

 

I'd suggest that most medium sized lifting done on a heritage railway falls into the 'couple of simple lifts' category and would on no account justify hiring in a crane. These cranes are well worth going for by any heritage railway that doesn't have a similar machine. (We've already got two so I'm not interested.)
Steam cranes are a different matter. They take a lot of looking after with boiler inspections as an additional requirement with the added drawback of not being available at the push of a button. I'm not surprised that you had no takers at scrap price. Too expensive.

 

I repeat my previous questions. Without proper maintenance and properly trained operatives you have an accident waiting to happen. I cite the incident at TSR where through questionable crane operations someone ended up being air-lifted to hospital with severe injuries followed with a severe fine.
A mature organisation such as the NYMR has the capacity to maintain a proper SMS for craning operations. Few two-bit outfits can.

Too late. I'm informed the scrap-man was delighted with his purchase.

 

I don't think it's too late...it was always the case that the scrapman had bought them and they were available at scrap price to anyone interested

 

as above to the to late comment they are still avalabel i only saw them yesterday there still there in one piece and he is willing to sell them as we are potencly geting the 6 ton naw only one we can aford but his is big fi.

 

Good luck Track_basher with getting the 6 ton crane. I would have thought if the scrapman knows he has a buyer he can be persuaded to wait a while longer. How did your negotiation go?

 

Do keep up please. I was referring to the steam crane that's already been cut up.

I suppose you must be hoping he's a resurrected Dai Woodham.

 

Yet another sarcastic member.

 

thanks....not at all obvious what he was talking about.

 

Funnily enough I did have that thought in mind and almost put something to that effect in my post. I'm running on the assumption that the scrap dealer is not short of a bob or two and if he knows that serious efforts are being made to come up with the purchase price he might well be prepared to give Track_basher and co. some time to complete the deal.