Help needed with some id's please

Evening All



I have added a small collection of unusual steam locos that i need id of if anyone can help please



http://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SteamMisc/NEW-TO-ID-3



Regards



Neil

 

10 must be a Port of London loco from the extensive system in London Docks. I have a feeling 1&2 are pics of a LNER steam railmotor

edit 6 is dual braked and is probably GER origin

the 440s have the look of a Drumons design but not southern

 

Not sure on your feeling of pics 1&2 as it says Southern Region on the side

Neil

 

pic 12 is one of the 2 WD Baldwins outside Snailbeach engine sheds both locos where scrapped in 1950

Cheers
Colin Green

 

OOPs - Somebody mentioned Snailbeach.........but i think they got away with it......

 

Nos 3,5 &9 are ex M&GN 4-4-0's one still has M&GN on the tender. No4 is an ex LBSC 'K' class. No 6 is an ex GER 0-6-0T maybe J67/68/69 - not my area. No 7 is an IoW O2. No 8 is an ex LSWR loco - probably one of Colonel Stephens' from the KESR or another of his lines, one was called Hesperus IIRC. Hope this helps. Ray.

 

1 and 2 are the Southern's Sentinel railcar, originally used on the Devil's Dyke branch.

 

I blew up the photos and had a quick Google (they can't touch you for it). As Rich says the railcars say 'Southern' on the side.
As far as the others go, a bit more info:
#3 M&GN 'C' class No 80 built Beyer Peacock wdn mid 30's
#5 ,, No 17 built Sharp Stewart ,,
#9 ,, No79 built B.P. renumbered 079 when taken over by LNER Oct 1936.
#6 LNER J69 No 7053 ex GER class S56 wdn 1961 as 68619.
#8 Ex LSWR (built Beyer Peacock) Colonel Stephens' KESR No4 or EKR No7 ?
#11 PLA No 24 'Nestor' built Robert Stephenson & Co.
#13 Greystone Limeworks Dorking "Coffeepot" built T.Head 1871.
Ray.

 

The railcar - a few minutes in google produced this.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/8204079764/

 

I've dug out the 1959 ABC.
Going by the boiler, dome & firebox shape, together with the round cylinders. number 4 appears to be a LBSCR K class 2-6-0. These were built in 1913.
Picture 6 looks like a J77 class. However they were numbered 683XX - 684XX and the featured loco has 7053 on the tank.

 

I'd agree 4 is a K class mogul. The loco behind is clearly also Southern - possibly a King Arthur, but definitely Maunsell.

Photo 7 is one of the Isle of Wight LSWR O2s (distinctive with the extended bunker).

Tom

 

7053 is its pre 1946 LNER number, became 68619 and that makes it a J69. Built Stratford 1904. I'm sure the OP could Google like the rest of us but that wouldn't get him hits on his website now would it?

 

http://railway-photography.smugmug.com/SteamMisc/NEW-TO-ID-3/i-2FZ6S4M/A = J69 7053 later LNER=8619 / BR=68619