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Pledge your Allegiances

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od Hurricane, 12. Ožujak 2014..

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  1. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

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    For me also no contest, 34007, clean or dirty, and which machine has cost the less to restore and keep in working order, but then 34007 was not in the care of a certain gentlemen who shall we say tends to like spending other peoples money and ends up as a wreck ?
     
    martin butler, 13. Ožujak 2014.
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  2. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

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    So advanced that the majority of its class and its larger brethren were rebuilt into conventional 3-cylinder Pacifics like the one on the left...
     
    S.A.C. Martin, 13. Ožujak 2014.
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  3. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

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    Well, that is precisely why they were so advanced. Materials technology had yet to catch up with some of the concepts incorporated. Many of the issues that plagued the types in service have only recently been ironed out with improvements in materials etc. I'm sure there's a bit more to go in the combination lever department, as a couple have sheared in the last ten years. This defence also indicates where my allegiances lie. Nothing can touch them on account of distinctiveness and innovation in spite of their foibles.
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 13. Ožujak 2014.
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  4. Muzza

    Muzza New Member

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    Love them both!
    Both designers have GNR/LNER heritage.
    I wonder how OVSB's designs may have ended up if built at Doncaster.
     
    Muzza, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Probably a bit like the grubby one :)
     
    Martin Perry, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  6. nine elms fan

    nine elms fan Part of the furniture

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    Mr Bulleid learnt his trade from Mr Gresley, says a lot for Mr Gresley don"t it.!:(
     
    nine elms fan, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  7. Bramblewick

    Bramblewick Member

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    Well, the one on the right is basically a V2 in a box, so it makes sense to favour the Gresley machine. ;)
     
    Bramblewick, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  8. Hurricane

    Hurricane Member

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    I love a good debate, the picture really does give a good comparison; what is more amazing is we can still recreate the image (Well when scotsman is back from overhaul)
     
    Hurricane, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  9. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    Well, you're unlikely to find one in this thread, just a collection of statements of prejudice!
     
    61624, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  10. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Neither, both adhesionless overly complicated unreliable pacifics :D
     
    david1984, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  11. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

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    At least they're "adhesionless overly complicated unreliable pacifics" with tender doors and don't break your back when firing... ;)
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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    Jamessquared se sviđa ovo.
  12. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    Are you therefore inferring that whatever reason you use to choose, even if it's neither of the above, it's a statement of prejudice?o_O
     
    RalphW, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  13. Reading General

    Reading General Part of the furniture

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    Ok magnificent tender doors and firehole position....is that really all they have that's better than the Nobleman or fortified stately home implied?
     
    Reading General, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  14. 4472

    4472 Member

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    Scotsman always
     
    4472, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  15. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    Absolutely, and nothing will convince me otherwise!
     
    61624, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  16. Bulleid Pacific

    Bulleid Pacific Part of the furniture

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    Well, there is more, but we don't have all century... ;)
     
    Bulleid Pacific, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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    Reading General se sviđa ovo.
  17. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Let's not go there shall we.
     
    Spamcan81, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  18. david1984

    david1984 Resident of Nat Pres

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    Soft Southern firemen ;)
     
    david1984, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  19. martin butler

    martin butler Part of the furniture

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    Unlike western engines you dont have to be a deformed drawf to fire a west country, if you want a profile of a western fireman, think quasimodo and at least on a west country you have such things as electric lights , 2 gauge glasses, and your on the correct side of the cab,
     
    martin butler, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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  20. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    But you do have to be fit enough to keep the firebox fed, and who says which side of the cab is the correct one?
     
    RalphW, 14. Ožujak 2014.
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