L&BR - British Railways Question

Hello Folks,

This may have been debated elsewhere, and if it has then I do apologies, but I have a couple of hypothetical questions related to the Lynton and Barnstaple liveries had it been nationalised.

Firstly, would the locomotives have carried lined BR black or brunswick green? Secondly, would the carriages have simply remained in SR green, or been repainted Carmine and Cream or some other BR carriage livery?

Thanks

Chris

 

What colour were the VoR locos before the rail blue era?

 

The Vale of Rheidol coaches had a brief spell in carmine and cream before reverting to chocolate and cream after 1956. IIRC, they carried a special Cambrian-inspired green livery from 1966 before going rail blue in 1968.

My guess is that had the L&B survived, their coaches would have followed a similar pattern, though with Southern Region green instead of chocolate and cream, and not with the Cambrian green! Another possibility is that they could have been painted plain carmine rather than carmine and cream in the early years, as some older coaches were under BR.

 

Do you think that the carmine and cream would have followed the panelling (ala the original L&B coach livery) or been a straight divide (as seen on the mainline)?

 

On the Welshpool & Llanfair both 822 and 823 remained in GWR Green, until 1956 (they were overhauled at Swindon somewhere between 1946-1948).

Only 822 received BR black and that was only for the last six months of operation.

 

My guess would be a straight divide. Off the top of my head, I cannot think of an example of BR applying a "pannelled" carmine and cream livery to any coach. I'm ready to be proved wrong however!

 

The 1948 BR specs were that "non-corridor" stock was to be painted all-over carmine red (aka "blood") changing to all-over maroon in 1956, or for the Southern region all-over green. As non-corridor stock, if the L&B had survived into BR(S) days, it is fairly safe to assume that the carriages would have been red changing to green from 1956 similar to the IoW stock which was also panelled. Yes, I know the VoR carriages were painted as if they were corridor stock but the Western region always did things differently (or better, depending on your point of view!) Ray.

 

Came across this photo, i don't know if it's known or not.