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Garratt loco William Francis

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od PortRoadFan, 9. Svibanj 2014..

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  1. PortRoadFan

    PortRoadFan New Member

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    Yesterday's new issue of Heritage Railway reports that Bressingham have just been gifted "William Francis," the 0-4-0 + 0-4-0 Garratt, by the son of its recently deceased long-term owner. As a result they are now looking into finding a better way to display it, and will look into restoring it to steam.

    Where could it visit, apart from Foxfield and Tanfield? It shouldn't be short on power and could run on most preserved lines I would have thought?

    Chris
     
    PortRoadFan, 9. Svibanj 2014.
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  2. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    What a joy it will be if the Beast of Baddesley steams again.
     
    Spamcan81, 9. Svibanj 2014.
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  3. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    I would imagine there will be quite a queue to hire it, if it gets vac brakes.
     
    Martin Perry, 9. Svibanj 2014.
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    242A1 Well-Known Member

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    Not sure of the condition of this engine. But restoration to working order would be worth funding. You would want to get some involvement from the WHR people since they have experience of the Garratt design and from the preservation history of the K1 it appears to be quite awkward to get the best out of them.
     
    242A1, 9. Svibanj 2014.
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  5. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Don't think William Francis was a compound, which should keep things simple :D
     
    Martin Perry, 9. Svibanj 2014.
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    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    Go stand in the corner, boy.....
     
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  7. pete2hogs

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    Obviously it would not be a bad idea since the WHR have a Garratt fleet to exchange information, but K1 is not typical of a Garratt - it is very much a prototype, and in any case was intended for a railway that had an 8mph speed limit. Most of the challenges with it have been due to the desire to run it at 25mph for relatively long distances. And of course there wasn't a Haynes manual :) . William Francis is a more evolved design and shouldn't present any particular problems. I'd pay good money to see it vac fitted and hauling a rake of Mk1's!
     
    pete2hogs, 11. Svibanj 2014.
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  8. Chris86

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    Much as I think it would be fantastic to see, not sure I ever see Bressingham doing it. Whatever happened to Martello?

    Chris
     
    Chris86, 11. Svibanj 2014.
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    kieranhardy Well-Known Member

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    Failed at the B&W gala in 2011 with leaking tubes apparently. I believe she's been static ever since. Pity she more or less just disappeared with seemingly nothing said about her being withdrawn.
     
    kieranhardy, 11. Svibanj 2014.
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    Seems a shame- presume it must have had 3-4 years left on its ticket had it not failed? I wonder if there are other bigger issues making it not worth sorting?- This is what makes me slightly doubtful of an operational future for the Garratt.

    Chris
     
    Chris86, 11. Svibanj 2014.
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  11. 61624

    61624 Part of the furniture

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    I just hope that if there is a project to return it to steam, it isn't managed by the same people responsible for 6100....
     
    61624, 11. Svibanj 2014.
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  12. THE MELTER

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    This for me at least is good news,
    i do hope they can steam it again one day,
    it can go anywhere and do what it was meant to do.
    PULL COAL TRAINS.

    as for 6100 have they got any of that nice red paint left.
     
    THE MELTER, 12. Svibanj 2014.
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    Would certainly be a very worthwhile project and would love to see this locomotive steam again.

    Whilst talking of other Bressingham Engines... what's happened to King Haakon rarely runs on the standard gauge anymore and isn't normally publicly accessible (well it wasn't last time I visited).
     
    ykin01, 12. Svibanj 2014.
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    It would be very welcome to visit Foxfield when (if) it returns to steam. However I wouldn't be surprised if it is a very long term project as it is rather tired and effectively two engines to overhaul.
     
    Avonside1563, 12. Svibanj 2014.
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    Coincidentally an ex-NCB mate of mine recently linked me to some photos of WF at work at Baddersley inc one of it crossing the A5 with a flagman holding up the traffic, and another at the top of the bank in the pit yard. Unfortunately the FB page is a closed group for ex-miners so I can't link to it. For interest, some of the track at the exchange sidings by the canal is still in situ at the boat yard that occupies the old wharf.
     
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    I may be wrong but wasn't she withdrawn a couple of years ago aswell?

    Other than I assume a diesel shunter and the odd visit by a Thomas locomotive I don't believe they have an operational standard gauge locomotive at the moment. Would be nice if one day Granville got a look in.... a very small loco that would be ideal for their needs.
     
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  17. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Search Flickr and ye shall find
    [​IMG]Filthy, horrible old steam enginges!! by geoff7918, on Flickr
     
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    Spamcan81, 12. Svibanj 2014.
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  19. big.stu

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    Last time I was there (autumn sometime), the diesel 'shunter' took the form of a tractor! Bucket loader on front was used to nudge the loco parked outside back down the slope in to the main shed.
     
    big.stu, 13. Svibanj 2014.
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  20. class8mikado

    class8mikado Part of the furniture

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    Not bad looking for a Garratt.
    wheels about 4Ft dia ? so perhaps not the ideal Jacobite loco
     
    class8mikado, 13. Svibanj 2014.
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