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3101 class

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  1. arthur maunsell

    arthur maunsell Well-Known Member

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    I saw a picture today opf a GWR 2-6-2t taken in 1912.It was described as a 3101 class number 2197(sic).Had flat side tanks very like a 45xx with number plates in the centre of them, didnt look like the 3150/5101/61xx family....had long front platform with shallow angular step up to running plate. The description doesnt sound quite right to me, any info?
     
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    3101 was the original number series of what became the 44XX class I believe.
     
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    that makes sense...this one was no 2197 though....im wondering in that case if it was actually something like 97 and a prototype 44xx, later renumbered 4400...does that make any sense? Cant see the number in the photo.
     
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    This page of the Great Western Archive, '3100' tank class details: 3100, 3111 - 3190 gives some details about the large prarie tanks.

    I have scaned throught the Lots built by the GWR at the back of Russell's book and cannot find one with a number series containing 2197. I have found information on a asorbed loco numbered 2197, but this wasn't taken into stock until 1922 and refers to a 0-6-0T loco.

    Is the photo on the web or only in print?
     
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    97 is the prototype 28xx..so im wrong there.
     
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    I have downloaded a full list of GWR loco lot No's which says the prototype No 4400 was originally No. 115.
    I would like to upload the list onto here, but it is in Microsoft Excel format & the forum won't let me upload it. Can't see any mention of any 2197 though.
     
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    Could it have been an early 45XX numbered 2187?
     
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    i mth9ink that must be it...2187 instaad of 2197 and 3101 class is an error...understandable....the photo is quite small and i dont think i should scan it anyway as it is copyright
     

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