If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

35018 British India Line

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 34014, Sep 23, 2014.

  1. 26D_M

    26D_M Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 22, 2009
    Messages:
    4,416
    Likes Received:
    1,680
    Splendid as that deconsruction is, and I am utterly eviscerated by the way, it rather misses the point. Firstly, it is absolutely possible to hold an opinion without having been at the centre of events but one might choose not to, perhaps.
    Secondly, and not for the first time, you singularly fail to grasp that a forum such as this is a medium to facilitate discussion which, sadly for your sensibilities I fear, will likely feature opinions and speculation.
     
  2. martin1656

    martin1656 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,094
    Likes Received:
    9,308
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Ian Riley's run out of pop corn, Spamcan has probably thrown himself in the frier screaming " I can't take any more, me, I'm just about to open my bottle of isey malt and reach for a straw, can we put it to bed now please. The crew must have considered it safe to proceed, and at the end of the day they were the ones who were there and knew the conditions .
     
  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    May 30, 2009
    Messages:
    17,933
    Likes Received:
    16,931
    Location:
    1016
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I'm with @martin1656 on this one. So we'll consider any further speculation and comment on Merchant 18's steam leak as just inflammatory and it'll be deleted. The only exception will be if someone in the know at 10A updates everyone on what the problem is to set minds at rest....You wish. :)
     
    30854, Spamcan81, RalphW and 6 others like this.
  4. MellishR

    MellishR Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    6,161
    Likes Received:
    3,755
    As far as we can tell the loco is in very fine form apart from the steam leak. But it has gone out on a succession of test runs, and West Coast must be paying Network Rail a significant sum each time. That implies that they are working to fix the leak but that fixing it isn't proving easy. Can we just wish them power to their collective elbow to get it fixed?
     
  5. Copper-capped

    Copper-capped Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2017
    Messages:
    1,295
    Likes Received:
    1,566
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Stanthorpe, QLD, Australia
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    This caught my eye!

     
    MikeParkin65 and RalphW like this.
  6. GW 5972

    GW 5972 New Member

    Joined:
    Apr 26, 2015
    Messages:
    86
    Likes Received:
    70
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Having nearly lost the will to live hearing poster's on here getting all steamed up, may I (with tongue firmly in cheek)
    point out that the problem of forward vision is caused by water vapour, steam AIUI being invisible!

    If the recent runs were taking place on a scorching summer day there would probably be little effect as superheated steam condenses more slowly.

    Nevertheless I hope the boys (girls?) at Carnforth get lucky with the fettling soon.
     
    Johnb, 26D_M and sycamore like this.
  7. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Part of the furniture Staff Member Moderator

    Joined:
    Apr 15, 2006
    Messages:
    15,810
    Likes Received:
    6,448
    Location:
    1012 / 60158
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Although at the point of leakage it would almost undoubtedly have been steam ... :)
     
  8. BillyReopening

    BillyReopening Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    581
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance Trumpet Player // IT Engineer
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  9. martin1656

    martin1656 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,094
    Likes Received:
    9,308
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Sawdust likes this.
  10. Lplus

    Lplus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,919
    Likes Received:
    991
    Location:
    Waiting it out.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
  11. BillyReopening

    BillyReopening Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    581
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance Trumpet Player // IT Engineer
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Ahh maybe - I just saw a few pics of the leak on that side, go stick 35018 into flickr's search and have a look - I couldn't say one way or the other (not trying to cause wibble by the way!!) - just seemed odd when I saw hehe
     
  12. Dexter

    Dexter New Member

    Joined:
    Nov 28, 2013
    Messages:
    63
    Likes Received:
    55
    there’s nothing coming out of the draincocks in that picture?
     
  13. martin1656

    martin1656 Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2014
    Messages:
    15,094
    Likes Received:
    9,308
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    St Leonards
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    thats what i thought , the loco was withdrawn in the same year i believe, so is it possible that she was withdrawn with an existing problem somewhere in the steam circuit that might not have been at first realised until her test runs ? i'm sure Carnforth will get to the bottom of it .
     
  14. Lplus

    Lplus Member

    Joined:
    Nov 24, 2011
    Messages:
    1,919
    Likes Received:
    991
    Location:
    Waiting it out.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    You are correct, though the steam does seem to be coming from the area of the draincocks themselves. It suggests leakage from the steam supply which holds the draincocks shut. (hence nothing coming from the pipes) Still not coming from the valve cover area.
     
  15. BillyReopening

    BillyReopening Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    581
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance Trumpet Player // IT Engineer
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Last edited by a moderator: Mar 29, 2018
  16. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    22,188
    Likes Received:
    42,602
    Location:
    215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Not sure you can really draw much information about the current condition of a locomotive that is newly overhauled having spent the previous decades in derelict condition, based on random photographs of it in service 50 or more years ago.

    Those photos show wisps of steam emerging from the glands - hardly a rare occurrence on steam locomotives, and since inevitably the rods will have been out, re-machined, new gland packings made and so on as part of the recent overhaul, I suspect indicative of precisely nothing about its current condition.

    Tom
     
    60017, Copper-capped and Spamcan81 like this.
  17. fergusmacg

    fergusmacg Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2008
    Messages:
    5,919
    Likes Received:
    3,314
    Occupation:
    Design Engineer
    Location:
    Cumbria
    Do we know if the leak is coming from the "valve cover area" I'd stopped following this thread a while ago. - whilst it's pure speculation there is also the main steam pipe and the flange on the top of the cylinder to consider along with the integrity of the cylinder itself and the valve and cylinder covers attached. As I said many moons ago unless you get close up and personnel non of us can make any sort of diagnosis.
     
  18. BillyReopening

    BillyReopening Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    581
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance Trumpet Player // IT Engineer
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    See above - I even said myself its probably not just saw it as a coincidence!!
     
  19. gwalkeriow

    gwalkeriow Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Aug 17, 2009
    Messages:
    1,669
    Likes Received:
    1,682
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired.
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Could I please draw attention to post 2723 by Big Al !!
     
  20. BillyReopening

    BillyReopening Member

    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2012
    Messages:
    830
    Likes Received:
    581
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Freelance Trumpet Player // IT Engineer
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Hang on - I posted a curiosity, not an inflammatory remark. Its a discussion forum - I felt it was an interesting discussion point. I might go back to lurking....
     

Share This Page