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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by Reading General, Feb 3, 2015.

  1. Reading General

    Reading General Well-Known Member

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    what about 4403 in Scotland? Or is that still a secret?
     
  2. ADB968008

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    I thought 5538 was based at Carnforth for a while ?
     
  3. Jimc

    Jimc Part of the furniture

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    Do tell...
     
  4. Reading General

    Reading General Well-Known Member

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    ah it was just a dream :)
     
  5. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Part of the furniture

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    I thought it was panniers that were associated with Scotland....
     
  6. Martin Perry

    Martin Perry Part of the furniture Staff Member Moderator

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    It was cosmetically restored there as a contract job, I wouldn't call it based there.
     
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    I think a 28xx went on trial with the North British Railway at one point.
     
  8. Matt37401

    Matt37401 Part of the furniture

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    Have a look at where 1646 and 1649 were allocated.
     
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    And a terrier, rail motor and whole bunch other stuff at various points in history
     
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    A terrier was allocated there? Didnt know that.
     
  11. ADB968008

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    37, 38, 81 and 83 got work at distilleries in Scotland.

    52, 57 got further though... They went to work for the Argies, after helping build the GCR with 3 others first.
    Though 46,48 were the traitors, they went to the LSWR, plus two to the GWR and one to the SECR.

    Real class 14's of their day.
     
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    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    That's hardly true; the Terriers were successful!
     
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    Not initially, they were unsuitable for their work....

    They were built for Sutton / Wimbledon / Croydon area commuter services in new suburbs... Which grew faster than the locos could handle, and so were displaced away from their original purpose... Hence why the spread so far and wide.

    To think a terrier was built to do the work of a 12 coach 377 EMU today, in most cases the transition from steam to modern times is smaller trains not ever increasingly larger.
     
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    Id knew that 2 were exported and that the GW had 2. But never knew that some ended up that far north. The GW ones were ex Weston, Clevedon and Portishead weren't they? I've heard the story of the unfortunate Porter who when asked by some old lady to how to get to Portishead and was told 'you want the WC & P...'
     
  15. ADB968008

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    We still have that today, at Waterloo asking for bank...

    You need to goto the drains and take the Waterloo and sh...y line.
     
  16. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

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    They got around!

    637, 681 and 683 went to Inverness, 638 and 679 to Invergordon for the Admiralty during or just after the First World War. 673 and 674 went to the Edge Hill Light Railway in Warwickshire around the same time. Meanwhile, 638, 683 and 681 were sold on to the Shropshire and Montgomeryshire ...

    Incidentally, 654 "Waddon" (the one now preserved in Canada) was the one sold to the SE&CR. It holds the distinction of being the last loco still in pre-grouping livery on the Southern (it was repainted some time in the 1930s) but interestingly, it is the "wrong" pre-grouping livery! It even had the cast SE&CR cab identification plate.

    Tom
     
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    I've always known they've had an intresting history I mean anything that dates from 1872 is going to have a tale or two to tell! Im 31 in 3 weeks time I dare say they'll out live me!
     
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    the Class 14s were sucessful, except that maybe they should never have been built and the work they were designed for disappeared like snow in the spring. Most had a long career in industry and that so many are preserved is testament to their sucess
     
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    Is that right? I thought it was the opposite-the terriers were successful, which increased traffic and train weight. Increased train weight meant the terriers had to be replaced by bigger locos, so they were victims of their own success...



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