70013 & 30777 ECML lineside fires 02/09/11.

70013+30777 and 2 POBs left York station for Southall at 1405, about 20 minutes early.

 

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5Z22 has arrived at Newark N Gate 100 early. They have caused mayhem large lineside fire south of doncaster. All east coast trains stood.

 

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70013 + 30777 reported through Hambleton Jct at 14:24. Running via ECML and not via Sherburn. Thanks to Martin Elsey. <BJ>

 

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Doncaster delays: 14:53 to KX was 65 late and the 15:16 to KX 42 late. <BJ>

 

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NRES site now showing delays of up 120 minutes, up from 60 minutes about quarter of an hour ago.

 

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Is it really that dry over on the east side of the country? I'm suprised that they would have caused lineside fires when not working particularly hard on an LE movement.

Neil.

 

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Left the ashpan open allegedly...

 

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Set fire to one of the few wooden sleepers in Doncaster station.

 

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It's chaos here at kings cross trying to commute home.

 

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Whoops! Someone is going to have a red face if it is true !

 

Posts moved from LE movements thread as I think this will need a thread of its own.

Neil.

 

On Look North BBC1 now....not good.

 

Post on North East Gen about 18:50 by Daniel Wilson;

I've done my best to update the earlier posts regarding what is and is not happening on the ECML.

After the lineside fires at Rossington and Bawtry from 5Z22 (now sat at Newark Northgate awaiting a tow from a diesel) comes the resulting chaos (from 1620 to 1815-1845)!

Note – with 47270 replacing 6201 from Scarborough after it fell in the dirt, the failure on the WCML for West Coast, and the 2 kettles at Newark awaiting rescue – West Coast are not having a good day!

Down:

1N85 13:08 Kings Cross - Leeds held at Bawtry – 127 minutes delay, arrived 134 late arrival at York (1747)

1N19 13:30 Kings Cross - Newcastle on block with 1N85 – 152 minutes delay, 157 late arrival at York (1808).

1D16 13:35 Kings Cross - Leeds on block with 1N19 – 158 minutes delay, South Kirkby Jn 1806 (164 late)

1H04 13:48 Kings Cross - Hull held in the back platform at Retford, cancelled at Retford.

1S20 14:00 Kings Cross - Aberdeen held at Newark Northgate – 68 minutes delay, 104 late Retford, 148 late Doncaster, last reported Hambleton 1806 (146 late)

1D17 14:05 Kings Cross - Leeds held in the Down Claypole Loop – 123 minutes delay, Doncaster 1810 (151 late)

1B86 14:08 Kings Cross – Newark Northgate arrived 1536 (1 early)

1N21 14:30 Kings Cross - Newcastle held in Platform 4 at Peterborough – not showing as departed Peterborough!

1D18 14:35 Kings Cross - Leeds held on Down Fast at Peterborough – 141 minutes delay, Grantham 1810 (150 late)

1S22 15:00 Kings Cross - Glasgow Central on Down Slow Line Fletton, 140 minutes delay – Peterborough 1803

1D19 15:05 Kings Cross - Leeds held Down Slow Line at Holme – 77 minutes delay – no report at Peterborough yet!

1N87 15:08 Kings Cross - York on block with 1D19 – 96 minutes delay – no report at Peterborough yet!

Nothing leaving Kings Cross for north the north after the 15:08 departure.

Cancelled:

1S23 1530 Edinburgh
1D20 1535 Leeds
1H05 1548 Hull
1S24 1600 Aberdeen
1D21 1605 Leeds
1B88 1608 Newark Northgate
1S25 1630 Edinburgh
1D22 1633 Leeds

1N24 1648 Kings Cross – Sunderland started from Welwyn Garden City at 1741 (39 late), last reported Holme 1812 (43 late)

1S26 1700 Kings Cross – Edinburgh departed 14 late, last reported Tallington 1818 (29 late)

1D36 1703 Kings Cross – Leeds departed right time, last reported Stoke Jn 1821 (16 late)

1H10 1718 Kings Cross – Hull cancelled

1N27 1730 Kings Cross – Newcastle cancelled

1D24 1733 Kings Cross – Harrogate departed 20 late, last reported Sandy 1825 (20 late)

1D25 1749 Kings Cross – Leeds not yet departed

1S28 1800 Kings Cross – Edinburgh departed 2 late

1D26 1803 Kings Cross – Skipton not yet departed

1N29 1819 Kings Cross – Newcastle not yet departed

1S30 1830 Kings Cross – Edinburgh not yet departed

1D27 1833 Kings Cross – Bradford Forster Square cancelled

Up:

1A65 12:28 Sunderland - Kings Cross held in Platform 1 at Welwyn GC – showing cancelled at Welwyn Garden City

1A33 13:45 Leeds - Kings Cross held at Potters Bar

1E14 1200 Edinburgh – Kings Cross cancelled from Doncaster

1E15 09:52 Aberdeen - Kings Cross held in Plat 8 at Doncaster - diverted via Gainsborough to Newark, arrive Peterborough 1819 (43 late on a re-schedule)

1A36 14:45 Leeds - Kings Cross held in Plat 1 at Doncaster, cancelled from Doncaster

1B87 1552 Newark Northgate – Kings Cross delayed by 76 minutes at Peterborough

1A37 15:15 Leeds - Kings Cross held at Dock Hills Junction, cancelled from Doncaster

1Y38 1425 Newcastle – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A96 1510 Hull – Kings Cross cancelled from Doncaster

1E17 1330 Edinburgh – Kings Cross cancelled from York

1A39 1545 Leeds – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1Y88 1601 York – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A40 1615 Leeds – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1E18 1400 Edinburgh – Kings Cross last reported Doncaster 1823 (91 late)

1E19 1430 Edinburgh – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A41 1645 Leeds – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A67 1537 Bradford Interchange – Kings Cross last reported Stoke Jn 1824 (24 late)

1B89 1754 Newark Northgate – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A43 1715 Leeds – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1A97 1710 Hull – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1Y44 1625 Newcastle – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1E21 1530 Edinburgh – Kings Cross last reported Temple Hirst 1833 (25 late)

1A45 1745 Leeds – Kings Cross last reported Doncaster 1821 (5 late)

1Y90 1801 York – Kings Cross not yet departed

1A46 1815 Leeds – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

1E23 1630 Edinburgh – Kings Cross cancelled throughout

Various other delays approaching Kings Cross due to station congestion (affected most services between 30 and 90 minutes).

National Rail;

A lineside fire near Doncaster, and a broken down train at Peterborough are causing disruption.

Because of this, there are delays of up to 120 minutes between London Kings Cross and Doncaster. These delays are expected continue until further notice.

Buses are supplementing the train service between Doncaster and Grantham.

Because of the delays to trains towards London earlier this evening, there is a lack of trains available for services out of London. Customers are advised to use alternative routes from London where available.

Alternative routes / services from London:

Stevenage / Peterborough - Use First Capital Connect services from London Kings Cross

Grantham / Newark / Retford - Use East Midlands Trains from London St Pancras to Nottingham for connections to Grantham

Doncaster / Leeds / York / Hull - Use East Midlands Trains from London St Pancras to Derby to connect with CrossCountry services. Leeds / York customers may also use Virgin Trains from London Euston to Manchester Piccadilly to connect with First TransPennine Express services.

Darlington / Newcastle / Sunderland - Use Virgin Trains from London Euston to Carlisle to connect with Northern Rail services to Newcastle for connections.

Glasgow / Edinburgh - Use Virgin Trains from London Euston

Ticket Acceptance

East Coast, Grand Central and First Hull Trains customers may use each others services.

East Coast customers who decide not to travel today may use their tickets tomorrow (Saturday 3 September).

Customers may also use:

Virgin Trains services between London Euston and Glasgow / Edinburgh

East Midland Trains services between London St Pancras and Nottingham / Derby / Sheffield for connections to Grantham, Retford, Newark and Doncaster.

CrossCountry services between Derby and Doncaster / York
First TransPennine Express services between Manchester Piccadilly and York / Newcastle

 

Heard 2hr delays on the radio travel news. I really hoped that this wasn't down to steam - checked UK steam and no tours on the ECML today - hadn't thought of LE moves.

 

Unfort it was. Dampers left open. Ash all over place. 5Z22 Terminate at Newark. Been put into sidings

 

Presumably not dampers, as these need to be opened and closed dependent upon the demands on the loco. More likely the ashpan hopper doors on Cromwell?

 

Was at Doncaster when 70013 & 30777 passed through 1 hour early. Half hour later all trains suddenly deleyed...reports were of small fire north of doncaster then came news of fire at Rossington south of doncaster. Staff had put out a sleeper at Doncaster station too.
Left doncaster an hour ago and some trains were starting to head south and arrive to head north.

 

It's to be hoped Network Rail bosses don't lose patience with the steam movement.

 

UKSteam.info says awaiting diesel haulage from Newark. Over on the WCML a WCRC has reportedly failed at Rugby on a Carnforth - Southall ECS. If this is the stock for the ACE and with 70013 and 30777 stuck at Newark, it's not looking good at the moment for tomorrow morning.

 

The ACE doesn't start until Sunday. Lets hope things are sorted by then and there's no over-reaction to what sounds like human error.