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Atlantic Coast Express: RTC/Clan Line - 2/07/22

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  1. 30567

    30567 Part of the furniture Friend

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    Is nine mins at Waterloo P19 morning and evening enough time to detach/attach the diesel and do the tests? Genuine question.
     
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  2. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    Questions, questions...:)
     
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    Excuse my lack of operating knowledge hence the question: If the air braked train did need assistance, are WCRC able to just get an air braked diesel from any TOC to help them, or does it have to be one of their diesels?
     
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    On a joined up railway that would be the case I believe. However we know we do not have a joined up railway and many FOC's are short of staff so do not have any spare staff or locos "kicking around on the off chance". Where would the nearest dept be Westbury?
    That is of course before any of the specific industry politics.
    Just think how unlikely would it be for BA to loan Ryanair an aircraft, even if they were paying.
     
  5. J Shuttleworth

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    No, there won't.

    JS
     
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    Thanks James, I’ve just heard that plans have been changed and the diesel will be sent to Clapham yard. I assume that movement will now show up on RTT
     
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    Don't be too quick to believe all you see on RTT. It was always the plan but didn't get uploaded with the other (draft) times.

    Anyway, it's kept a few people needlessly frothing for a day or two!

    PS For recovery, in the event of a failure, NR will summon the nearest available and suitable loco, regardless of ownership to clear the line.

    JS
     
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    If the confirmation about the lack of diesel has swayed anyone, despite the main RTC site saying 'Fully Booked', the booking page is still showing 2 standard and 1 first class seat available.
    I'm hoping this isn't just a glitch, as I booked the 3rd standard ticket that was available!
    Will see if I get a ticket or cancellation call tomorrow!

    EDIT: Ticket arrived for coach F this morning. :-D

    Now I just have to hope that my rather tight connection from Marylebone to Waterloo works out. (If not I can at least jump on a train to Basingstoke which should overtake it enroute).
     
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    But presumably not to take it out of somewhere not blocking the operation of the rest of the railway James?
     
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    Good to have that confirmed. Thanks.

    My comment back at #10 that I thought that 28 was going alone, (and before everyone else's froth) was because I always thought that West Coast was going to consider what was possible. It has been said many times by @J Shuttleworth that West Coast doesn't add a diesel unless it's operationally necessary. The mere fact that they often do is because the itinerary leaves them with little choice or the motive power and the train that is proposed forces a diesel to be included.

    Given the lightweight train for Clan Line on Saturday and a path that suits the loco and its capability (because the path was worked up by the locomotive owners and not West Coast) that is all about as strong a safeguard as you can get.

    However, it's ultimately West Coast who decides what is acceptable and it's good that they reckon, on balance, things should be ok. Let's hope all goes well on Saturday.
     
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    All ready to go tomorrow, looking forward to this one


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    I trust that speck of dust on the left buffer will be removed before tomorrow - it's a disgrace!;)
     
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    Will the red plates be used tomorrow?be even more authentic if they are
     
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    Looking forward to it.
     
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    Aren't we all!!!
     
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    Afraid not, they are only for special occasions
     
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    As JS said it's Network Rail who obtain the use of a rescue loco.
    NR Route Control will consult with other operators as appropriate. It's not just the loco, a driver with appropriate route knowledge is needed as well.
    Please - just don't tempt fate!

    Cheers, Neil
     
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    This is a long shot but would anyone know which platform at Vauxhall 35028 is likely to go through . I'm presuming 3 or 4 . RTT has it on patform 3 at Queenstown road
     
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    Far too many years writing contracts where I was always looking to cover the unlikely causes that I am afraid Neil. Or Mr. Negativity as my wife calls it.
     

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