Carriage Identification Required.

Evening All,

I have just put a picture of what I assume to be an early LMS coach onto Flickr and I wondered whether any of the rolling stock experts out there could identify it for me. Here's the coach in question :


1975/06.R5555. Mystery coach at Oban. June,1975. by Ron Fisher, on Flickr

Thanks in advance.

 

Have you tried asking on
Departmentals & Internal Users « departmentals.com

 

It has been identified on the RM Web Forum as an LMS Period 1 corridor third, but much modified for departmental use including the longitudinal planking on the lower bodysides.

 

The longtitudinal planking is probably replacement for life-expired panels below the waist. Typically when new these panels would have been sawn from a large log and ingress of water over the expected lifecycle of the body would have caused them to crack and/or bulge. Some coaches ran in public service with this type of replacement planking.

 

Well that's something that I didn't know. I certainly don't recall seeing or riding in any like that.

 

I have only ever seen a repair like this on another riding van and can't think of any passenger carrying vehicle so planked. Would be interested to see a photo of one though. Ray.

 

Spotted this mystery coach wreck in use as a chicken coop whilst out cycling. Coach lies about 50 yards from the old Border Counties Railway line, between the former Wark and Redesmouth Junction stations, in a VERY remote location. The last possible date this coach could have moved by rail to this site was 1956, when the line closed. Do any of the experts on this site have any clue as to the identity of this vehicle? And is it worth trying to preserve; or is too far gone?

 

May well be on Carriage Survey site www.vintagecarriagestrust.org/surveystatus.asp, have seen a few bad specimens over the years and does not look too bad from a distance. Depends very much what materials used for main members at bottom and whether any of chassis members survived to support it. Probably stripped from chassis at nearest station with a loading dock and slid onto a big farm cart or a couple of bogies used to carry logs etc.

 

Had a rake through the VCT register and can't find anything. Might be worth emailing them as it could well be that its not actually on the register.

 

Could not see anything on Preserved Railway Stocklist either.

 

Previously unknown grounded bodies still keep turning up so not all have been surveyed or appear on the VCT Register. It is a good idea to try and get everything recorded because at least it gives more chance of these bodies getting saved if they are disposed of.

 

The layout of the doors is strange, looks like 2 sets of paired luggage doors, at the left end there is another (reversed) door looking like it's fastened on as an entrance to area at side or something. Almost certainly was a 6 wheel and probably less than 30 foot long looking at the proximity of windows at partitions between compartments