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Clutton Station (B&NSR)

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by SpudUk, Jun 23, 2009.

  1. SpudUk

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    Does anyone know what has happened with the Clutton Station project? I know its stopped due to council issues but has it been completely abandoned?

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    was looking on the net for this and the only info i can find says the project is abandoned
     
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    Yes guys, it ran from July 2004 to December 2007, and would have become a major attraction in North Somerset, with a park and ride at chelwood bridge roundabout, Chelwood Halt, 1-3/4 mile single track 1 in 62 mainline to clutton, with the 1873 william clarke station, box and shelter rebuilt and parallel single track back from Clutton, to King Lane summit then half mile branch into Fry's Bottom Colliery, with proper working mining museum, using the last unsealed 500 foot shaft in the North Somerset Coalfield. Also a childrens adventute playground, 5 a side floodlit pitch and new joint scout-youthclub/day nursery building on the old lower goods yard.
     
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    so why did it end?? lack of money?? its a shame. no one tried to continue it on volunteer run then?? well the railway part.
     
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    Things have changed since 2007; the political and economic climate, physical circumstances and "who you know" so all I will say is watch this space!
     
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    Living near by, I'd be prepared to get involved if something kicked off!
     
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    I think this project was promoted by the guy who's now trying to reopen the Somerset and Dorset. Enough said?
     
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    Sorry Kingscross, you are wrong there. Steve Sainsbury of the NEW S&D has never been connected with Clutton, which is currently dormant. And whats with the "enough said?" negativeness?

    A couple of oil strikes, panic buying at the pumps
    A Bad winter and the roads have more potholes than the moon has craters
    A volcanic eruption in iceland and european air travel grinds to a halt for a week

    but rail travel continues unaffected, and yet we run our system into the ground. The railways wil be making a comeback in the next 25 years
     
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    Instead of being negative and accept that a missing embankment, filled in cutting or housing blocking a line are forever and accept that the road network will continue to grow at the expense of the railway, we need to do something about it!
     
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    Which has precisely what to do with Clutton station, or the new S&D, or the majority of other railway reinstatements?

    Anyhow, we've been over this many times, and at no point has any shred of evidence been provided as to the need for the reinstatement of railway lines in the middle of nowhere.

    So, this Clutton scheme; any plans for workshop facilities? Storage sidings, loco pits etc? Given that the plans Were to build over the goods yard...

    What's going on with the proposed mining museum? Because if you haven't got a destination to ride to, then there's no point in a 'park and ride', as you put it. All strikes me as a bit pie in the sky.
     
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    It was the "enough said?" negative attack on anyone who dares to think outside the motorcar box. Like flaming people who are trying to lobby into changing the national mindset of car is king, more roads and tescos are brilliant etc. Someone has to stand up for common sense cause the government sure ain't gonna do it. Just imagine though, if there were people like steve in every city, with a following, we may have a chance.

    pie in the sky, well good for you stewie. The same regulars on here can always be relied upon to dish out 70's negative thinking, no wonder the railways are still in terminal decline. Have you got a vested interest in the road lobby too?
     
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    Not flaming, just asking questions. It's a fairly well known mechanism for acquiring knowledge you don't otherwise have.

    And if people are going to start taking these ideas seriously, then you're going to need to learn to answer them.
     
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    Hello chaps

    Rail travel is not in termnal decline. Annual passenger growth is currently 7.8%, and 1.2 billion journeys were made last year.

    Rail passengers clocked up 30.1 billion miles last year, 10 billion more than a decade ago. The only time the railways were busier was during WW2, when millions of troops were being moved around the country.

    Not much evidence of a terminal decline there.

    I love rail. I don't own a car and use trains every day. But I'm also a realist, and don't think that reopening every meandering branch line is the answer. The "New S&D" group (and the Clutton scheme before that) seems to be the work of a self-promoting fanatist, who's idea of a public transport renaissance is reopening pretty countryside railways staffed by time-served porters who doff their caps to passing trains.

    But as the poster above says, the goverment ain't going to stand up for those that want to see an expansion in rail. Ok, so there's cross-party support for some new high speed line from a tiny place called 'London' to the Midlands and possibly beyond, but how does this help the poor peasants of Stuminster Newton and Corfe Mullen, trapped in their gridlocked Nissan Micras? :wave:
     
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    I knew it! I knew this thread would go hostile. What the bloody hell? This was about a preservation scheme which I believe had intended to be a small 'visitor centre' style operation. Instead it gets linked to the S&D and the peak oil ideas which are contentious and now it gets declared as being bonkers as a attempted new commuter line. At least it wasn't what I expecting I thought it would be that Maunsell Man would state it was a stupid idea and they should join a bigger railway like the North Yorkshire Moors Railway. And anyway, as far as I can work out, the Cutton scheme failed cause of planning issues with the Council, not because it was unrealistic and ‘run by nutters’.

    Can we post something more constructive now, please.
     
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    I'm not sure I'd describe this thread as hostile; I could do hostile if you want, but I really don't think that would be helpful!

    Several questions have been asked about the plans for the scheme, based upon my limited understanding of the published plans. I would class this as being constructive. The brief discussion of the S&D is only because of the same enviro-gubbins being raised in yet another thread about a rural railway reinstatement.

    Anyhow, I suspect I am not the only one tired of being told how I will apparently 'get around' in the future.
     
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    I'd just like to reiterate that this project is currently dormant, being neither dead, or alive. There are no real obstacles apart from an embankment removed and the cubic mass stuffed into the adjacent cutting. I do personally support the new s&d of steve sainsbury and his growing band of followers but he has not been involved here. I also have nothing more present to add to any questions as things are dormant, but being looked into in broad economic detail. I would like to offer figures etc but it is not pertinent at this stage. Thankyou guys.
     
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    Hah - damned if you speak and damned if you don't. Peak oil and Noddy rail - damned if I care! As much chance of success as Nick clegg has of becoming the next prime minister....
     
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    This was a really fun thread!

    Amazing to think that such nonsense was still the standard fare just a year ago. Since then of course we've seen petrol hit £1.40 a litre and a reduction in road traffic and even more rail reopenings and reopening plans. Plus a gradually restored Midford station with Spetisbury to follow.

    Far from being fantasists the people behind the New S&D (who now number hundreds) are bone dry realists. The New S&D is first and foremost a lobbying group for the next few decades, pushing restoration of the S&D to the top of the reopenings pile as the roads vanish. Members are mainly businesspeople and rail professionals. I'm a bit different as I'm an economist and investor. I've yet to meet an environmentalist in the group - doesn't the hippy who talked about enviro-babble understand that environmentalists and Peak Oil Theorists hate each other and come from a totally different background?

    And as for meandering branch lines and porters doffing caps? FFS - the New S&D is about providing community rail freight and passenger services using state of the art sustainable trains in a car and lorry-free future. And no, I've no idea why this is appearing on a preservation forum either - the New S&D is not about some self indulgent 60s adult play group but about ensuring that we can continue to travel where we wish in the future. I can't believe that just a year ago there were some cretins living in a dream world of electric cars and permanent 60s socialist consumerism.

    We all need to get real and fast!
     

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