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Dalesman and Pendle Dalesman 2021

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by iancawthorne, Dec 2, 2020.

  1. MellishR

    MellishR Part of the furniture Friend

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    Is an extra hour at Hellifield really better than at Carlisle? I agree about Upperby, but chances to do that are rare and I haven't managed one yet.
     
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    However, from the comments made as we sit a Hellifield, 'normal' passengers would much prefer to be able to wander around Carlisle or sit in the pub a bit longer than be stuck staring at deserted sidings or a station that they cannot access.
     
  3. Big Al

    Big Al Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator

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    And one assumes that this was the motivation of West Coast the other day in trying to get the charter away from Hellifield quickly but Network Rail had other ideas. As I said, the lottery of being a TOC.
     
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    30567 Part of the furniture Friend

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    Just in case there is anyone here who has not been to Carlisle : OK it is not in the same category as York as a destination, but it is in the next category down along with Shrewsbury and Chester. It has

    One of the nicest small cathedrals I know with associated buildings in the Cathedral Close.

    The Tullie House Museum

    The Citadel

    At least one large second hand bookshop in which it is not difficult to spend an hour.

    Quite a lot of shops, cafes etc, though I don't know how well that has stood up to Covid.

    I'm pretty sure the average punter would not prefer an extra hour sitting at Hellifield GL. Can we not knock it.
     
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    From the postings here three things come from the Tuesday trip to me.
    1) As long as you keep people informed most will accept this situation. I have seen this both as a railtour steward and in times of disruption working in an airport terminal. But it does need the truth, if you do not know say so, do not make things up or give "optimistic" updates not fact based.
    2) As you said earlier helps to operate near one of your bases.
    3) Have to hope this was an "on the day issue" only and not NR deciding they want a diesel on all S & C or CME type trips during the non summer months.
     
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    .... and all far better destinations than Holyhead. <BJ>
     
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    ...unless you are boarding a ship to Dublin!
     
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    Edited footage of 35018 at Gisburn Coates just before she stalled . Not brilliant editing but you get the idea .

     
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