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GWR Streamlined Castle : 5005 Manorbier Castle

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Just as a one off in this section as it is a unique loco

    I have obtained a collection of photos all taken in the 1930’s and early 1940’s of locos of the big 4
    These photos are of GWR locos and this photo of Collett Castle class features 1 of only 2 locos streamlined by the GWR
    5005 Manorbier Castle Paddington in full GWR streamlining Late 1930's Collett Castle class
    http://railway-photography.smugmug.com/GWRSteam-1/Collett-Locomotives/Collett-460-designs/Collett-Castle-Class/Collett-Castles/Built-June-1923-July-1927/i-mg4nQ9D
    Neil
     
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    LMS2968 Part of the furniture

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    You know, I can't help feeling that Collett never really got the hang of streamlining...
     
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    Martin Perry Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    Apparently he thought the whole exercise was pointless and gave it minimal attention.
     
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    Mm, probably, but I'm sure it would be mildly interesting to stuff them all in a wind tunnel and see what you get. However the GW engine is starting at a disadvantage anyway because of the larger loading gauge. On the other hand it has rather less lateral area than the bath tub fairings which might be better in some circumstances.
     
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    Well, since the GWR mafia are so keen to recreate missing Swindon products, I'm sure that Thornbury Castle could be made available....!
     
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    I believe Stanier did test his "rivals'" designs in a wind tunnel as well as his own ideas before finalising the Princess Coronation casing.
     
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    We've learned a lot about wind tunnels since then!
     
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    Dont joke! Stranger things have happened!
     
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    I read somewhere he didnt really want to do it so rather than use a special model he used a King(?) paper weight and just covered it with plastecine.
     
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    Thanks very much, Tom. And as I meant to say earlier, thanks again to Neildimmer for putting all of these together.
     
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    Erm, what?
     
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    Thanks Tobbes, nice to get some positive comment on this group for the photo collections, all I ever receive is moans and complaints, such as 'its in the wrong section' etc

    regards

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    To be fair, Neil, none of these complaints were aimed at you, all were at the abortion shown in the photo!

    I know you have put up a lot of good stuff, and most of us, if not all, appreciate it.
     
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    sorry I was not going on about the messages regarding the Castle, I agree it did look a mess, it certainly was not a A4, but with certain people who complain rabidly about me putting photographs in the Steam locos section

    Neil
     
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    The GWR "streamliner" weren't the only ones that looked a tad odd. CG3.jpg
    Dutch.jpg
     
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    First one would be ideal for clearing snow too :)
     
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