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Isle Of Man Steam Railway

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by David Bigcheeseplant, Jun 11, 2016.

  1. weltrol

    weltrol Part of the furniture Friend

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    I see that the 'Douglas' nameplate has just sold for £4200, and the Worksplate for £1300...(plus commission etc)
     
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    How much did the loco cost new in 1896? That's inflation for you! :)
     
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    Can’t help but think the nameplates should have been returned to the IMR with the loco
     
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    Owner's perogative. :(
     
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    Sadly yes, just a shame that they have been separated
     
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    I don't know, off-hand, how much No.9 cost new but I understand that the IoM Rly. Soc./IoM Rly & Tramway Pres. Soc./3'g. Soc'y (or whatever they are called at the moment) paid 1200.00 for it in 1978 - complete with all plates ...... I'm sure an announcement will be made on the IoMSRSA website in due course.
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    hope the IOMSRSA managed to source them in this case
     
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    The bidder managed to get the nameplate and worksplate...
     
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    thanks for the info, I wonder if the other one of Mona's and Fenella's will end up on there too
     
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    For the last month or so IMR No.5 Mona of 1874 has been undergoing a cosmetic restoration by the IoMSRSA in Port St.Mary goods shed (where it underwent asbestos removal in 2020). Current work is concentrated on cleaning up the inside motion and rods and acquiring some of the missing parts. The plan is that once the inside motion has been reassembled and the inside of the frames painted the boiler can be lifted in releasing the 4w well wagon for use elsewhere. One of the advantages of working alongside a working railway is that parts can be delivered by train as the ejector exhaust pipe was on Saturday morning. Another advantage is being able to watch the trains through the open shed doors. The photos below show IMR No.13 arriving on the 12.00 ex Port Erin, No.4 departing on the 11.50 ex Douglas and No.5 in the goods shed.
    IMG_2291 - Copy.JPG IMG_2292 - Copy.JPG Front End Of No.5 (05-03-22 Quayle).jpg
    Progress on No.5 can be followed on https://restoring-mona.blogspot.com/
    We are just a month away from our first special event of 2022 - Rush Hour On The Railways over Easter. As always news and updates can be found on the Heritage Railway Volunteers Facebook page https://www.facebook.com/hrviom/
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    Recently rebuilt IMR No.11 Maitland gets ever closer to its return to service with a further test run today, now complete with nameplates. Photo by Thurstan Denne/Heritage Railways Volunteers.
    IMR No.11 on test Douglas 16.3.22  HRV.jpg
    Further photos can be found at https://www.facebook.com/hrviom/
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    Following Wednesday's light engine test runs No.11 Maitland was out again yesterday with a loaded test train as seen, below, entering Santon station on the return run. More of Jon Wornham's excellent photos can bee viewed on https://www.facebook.com/hrviom/
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    The cosmetic restoration of IMR No.5 continues, each Saturday, in Port St. Mary goods shed. Work, at present, is being concentrated on two fronts removing/cleaning valve gear components and de-rusting/priming parts that were removed to facilitate asbestos removal. The attached photo by IoMSRSA member George Quayle appears to show yours truly on hands and knees removing the die block from the left hand expansion link. Interestingly the valve gear was stamped 2038 (Mona is BP 1417) so must have come from No.7 Tynwald (w.1939) dismantled in 1945. Updates on the project are usually posted weekly and can be followed at https://restoring-mona.blogspot.com/2022/03/progress-update-on-no5s-cosmetic-work.html
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    Purely cosmetic or not, it's got to be said that even half disassembled, Mona already looks better than for very many moons. You can tell it's gonna be another top job. Indian red, green ...... or patience?

    Enquiry: I've seen comment a couple of times that of Nos.5&6, Peveril is the one considered a better prospect for restoration. I'm guessing either would need considerable work (not least a new boiler) to bring back into traffic, so is there any truth in, or some particular reason for that?
     
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    I have heard similar but I tend to think that it was just someone's WIBN. Of the two No.5 was pretty much run into the ground by withdrawal in 1968. No.6 may be marginally better - but not by much. It wasn't a particularly early withdrawal but it did have 1.9 million miles 'on the clock' by 1960. The reality is that there is no need for additional locos in the foreseeable future. It has been stated that the aim is to have a pool of 5 serviceable locos at any one time with 10-13 as the 'core'. At the moment it is 4, 11, 13 & 15 (the latter still off its wheels as the workshop staff have been busy commissioning No.11). No.12 will be the next back in traffic but I doubt that it will be this year and No.10 appears to be 'on hold' at the moment. Hope this answers your question.
    Cheers,
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    Thanks Ray. Re: Nos. 5&6, that was just me being curious, as I'd expect either to represent more than the level of work undertaken on No.11 and as you point out, there's not exactly any galloping imperative right now. The mileage you mentioned for No.6 isn't bad going on a network which never exceeded 50 miles at it's maximum extent. In fact, I think it averages more per year than most of the IWR's (rather larger!) BP tanks managed between 1864-1932.

    I know there's not a snowball in hell's chance ahead of certain 'current commitments', but is the aspiration to have one 'small' loco available realistic in the foreseeable future i.e. 5 years or so ? With the coal situation being what it is, I'd imagine if a 'small' in good nick could handle lighter loadings (3-4 carriages) out of peak periods noticably more economically than the 'mediums', it'd be worth a second look. From what's been said of the state of the valves on both Nos.1&8 during their respective stints in traffic, would it be fair to say we've probably not seen a 'small' loco in A1 condition in living memory?
     
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    Hopefully this is the right thread. I took this photograph at Statfold Barn last July. The writing on the tank suggests it's Tynwald?
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    Hi Howard, Whilst the plan, as stated 3 or 4 years ago, was to keep a 'small' in the core fleet this now seems to have been sidelined in favour of No.16. The 'small' locos have the same tractive effort as 10-13 but the smaller boilers don't have the same output. Having said that, during a motive power crisis a couple of years ago, No.8 managed the heavy 6 coach dining train despite the condition of its cylinders and valves. It was suggested that No.10's 1993 cylinders (currently off the loco frames which are at SVR) could be put on No.8 and give the former a new set (castings are in stock) so that, like No.11, it was essentially in 'new' condition after overhaul. Unfortunately the suggestion wasn't taken up.
    I'm sure that, at some point in the future, we'll see a 'small' loco return to service - it just needs money. Perhaps we'll all get a surprise, as we did with the Cleminson .........
    Ray.
     
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    Just someone's little joke.
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