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Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by 45669, Sep 19, 2010.

  1. M59137

    M59137 Well-Known Member

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    Have just noticed this news article showing recent flooding around Ryde on the IOW. Has this been covered on another thread?

    If not - I notice the usual places have been hit i.e. the tunnels at Ryde Esplenade and the station/depot area at St Johns Road. Is there anyone more local able to give an update? Have the waters risen or dropped?

    I know flooding of the depot has caused extremely damaging effects on the tube stock in the past, I think last time only two sets on the elevated section survived water damage. Let us hope this event does not force any sets out of service...
     
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    with that ammount of water i would think that a lot of damage would have been done to the track and ballast , inside the tunnel its on a concrete bed isnt it? and looking at the hight of the water at St Johns,i would imagine that the emu's electrical systems would have been under water at some point ,does the tunnel still have drainage pumps? but given the sheer volume of water i cant see how anything could have prevented it
     
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    Luckily the water wasnt too deep at St Johns so i dont believe there's been any traction motor damage like last time when most of the fleet were OOS. Thankfully there wasnt much/any damage in the smallbrook area either so after a couple of days pumping out Ryde Tunnel full services have resumed, though a poor bloke is apparently having to hand wind the turnout at Esplanade before and after each train either due to water damage to the point motor or loss of power through the tunnel.

    While there are pumps both for the tunnel and this area of Ryde neither are designed for the sheer amount of water we experienced. Its a weird feeling to travel through a tunnel that two days earlier was 3/4 full of water!

    Chris
     
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    I've heard from a contact in the Brading Station project that the scheme to reinstate a passing loop at Brading has been shelved for the forseeable future. I can't see IWCC taking responsibility for anything else which costs money. Some roads still need repair after last winter and they are trying to close a number of rural schools.

    Cheers, Neil
     
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    That's certainly good to hear. I wouldn't really like to know whether Ryde have enough spares to replace water damaged components on six sets at the same time!
     
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    What is the spares situation with the 1938 stock? TRL have withdrawn what ever 1938 stock it had several years back now, and i cant see that they would have retained much in the way of spares, unless there are parts that were carried over to the later built stock
     
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    All the units are operational i believe, perhaps even 002 which is kept as a spare, so i doubt its a huge issue - it helps that a number of units were scrapped a few years back, and they've no doubt stocked up whenever appropriate spares were available. A bigger concern might be structural integrity, the state of the Standard stock that returned to Acton was shocking...

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    especially when you take into account the sea spray and salt corrosion that these units must suffer from , after all these units are now 70 years old and still in revenue earning service ,so i would be surprised if there isnt structial probleems
     
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    How awful to read about the flooding in November. I don't remember seeing it mentioned on the national news, but we were in the middle of moving house at the time so I may have missed it.

    Over the last few days I have been putting the rest of my Island Line pictures from September onto my Fotopic site; I don't suppose anyone is interested to see them but, if anyone is, they are here :

    http://ronfisher2.fotopic.net/c1907221.html

    And this is the first one to give you a taster. Clicking on the picture will enlarge it and take you to the others :

    [​IMG]

    As usual, they are in the 'Stop Press!' collection for new pictures. In due course, however, they will be moved to the Isle of Wight Railways collection and you will then find them here with the others :

    http://ronfisher2.fotopic.net/c1898137.html
     
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    Have all the units now been re painted into LT red? i was wondering, what livery were the coaches painted in on the original Isle of Wight Central it would have been nice if one unit could have been out shopped in this, or in fully lined southern railway bright green, anyone got any mock up s of the stock in verious island historic liveries?
     
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    They've all been red for a couple of years now, though you may notice that nearly all of them have been painted slightly differently. I believe a range of liveries was originally considered to replace NSE, including SR style green, but the Dino livery was ultimately chosen along with 007 in LT red - 009 then followed so it probably just seemed natural to paint the rest of the fleet into red too. Its worth remembering how badly they suffer from bodywork corrosion, not helped if covered with vinyls, so a basic livery helps with maintenance too.

    Chris
     
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    Being an ex Londoner who used to see these train on an almost daily basis, I am very pleased to see them once again in an LT style livery.

    However, thanks to the wonders of Photoshop, here is an idea of what they might look like if repainted into a Southern Railway / Southern Region style livery :

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    Clicking on the picture will enlarge it.
     
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    thanks ron, i actually think that lined out in black and yellow on the body sides it would look better, oh and with isle of wight in southern sans sarif nettering
     
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    Martin Butler wrote : "thanks ron, i actually think that lined out in black and yellow on the body sides it would look better, oh and with isle of wight in southern sans sarif lettering."

    Hello Martin,

    My Photoshop skills aren't that good! That's wht I decribed it as a Southern Railway / Southern Railway style livery.

    However, if there are any Photoshop experts out there that could re-create a more acurate fully lined out Southern livery, they are more than welcome to use any one of my pictures to have a go.

    Ron.
     
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    Other liveries considered were SouthWest Trains livery.
     

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