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Kirklees boiler incident

Discussion in 'Miniature Railways' started by Sheff, Jul 29, 2011.

  1. Sheff

    Sheff Resident of Nat Pres

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    Just picked this up on the RAIB site ......

    http://www.raib.gov.uk/publications/current_investigations_register/110703_kirklees.cfm
     
  2. stan the man

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    I cant understand how you drop a plug and not notice? surely the fire would be well and truly dampended at least on a loco of this size.

    Stan
     
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    I hope that this measure gets sorted soon.... Also wonder if anyone part of Kirklees is on the forum and if so whether they could shed more light on this issue
     
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    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    We've had previous discussions on whether a dropped fusible plug would be noticed or not. If the firehole door is closed, it is quite possible, even on a 15" gauge loco.
     
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    Steve Resident of Nat Pres Friend

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    At least one poster on here is involved with Kirklees. He hasn't visited for a few days, though.
     
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    The fusible plug is only a warning device, it probably doesn't have much effect on the fire except blowing its around a bit, if there are other noises around its probably quite hard to hear the steam escaping too.
     
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    As the matter is still under RAIB investigation, I would not expect any comment from our man at Kirklees untilall is completed.
     
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    Antwerp the great New Member

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    My name is Stuart Ross and I am the General Manager at the Kirklees Light Railway. We have issued the following statement to those people who have contacted us directly regarding the incident that is under investigation:

    "On Sunday 3rd July while working a passenger train the Kirklees Light Railway’s Kitson Meyer Locomotive Hawk experienced low water incident with its boiler. During the incident damage was sustained to the locomotives inner firebox.

    The incident was reported to both the Rail Accident Investigation Branch and the Office of Rail Regulation. The paid and volunteer staff of the KLR is cooperating fully with the RAIB and ORR inquiries into the incident."

    While the incident is under investigation you will understand that I cannot comment further at this time.
     
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    Many thanks Stuart for taking the time to post on here, I'm sure we can understand that because of the investigation you can't comment any more than the official statement.

    I visited the Kirklees last September, being interested in the Gas Producer Combustion System fitted to the locos. I found the volunteers and staff very friendly and helpful, and I would recommend to all on here, a visit to see these hard working locos.
     
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    The Kirklees Railway is a splendid set up with great locos and very friendly staff. They have always struck me as being very professional group of people who know the game and are on the ball. For an incident like this to have happened there, of all railways, suggests to that they are doing the right thing to get a third party to take on the task of sorting out how and what happened. I hope whatever loco was involved is not too damaged. Good luck to everyone and hope its behind them quick.
     
  11. stan the man

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    Maybe in a big loco where there are more than one plugs you may not notice but in something this size which no doubt has a single plug I would have really have thought it would be noticed unless of course...........

    You would certainley know if the plug went in any of the engines (road) I have owned.

    Stan
     
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    I managed to drop the plug on my 4" traction engine and I certainly knew it had gone. In this incident, by the time the plug melted I'd have thought the crew would have been watching out for it, given the fact that the water was said to be out of sight in the glass.
     
  13. stan the man

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    Your plug is working just as it should. No doubt you remove the plug each year and clean out the crud and scale from the top of the plug?

    My inspector woudnt give me a ticket unless he saw the plug out each year.

    Stan
     
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    I find it hard to believe this is nothing but a one off incident at the KLR.

    This railway is a great family attraction and we have been going for years, the staff are always nothing but polite and proffesional.

    The KLR are doing the right thing in working with the RIAB to get to the bottom of what happened, their honesty and integrety should be applauded.

    In the mean time we should wait for the RIAB's verdict before speculation damages the KLR's reputation.
     
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    I have to agree. I have not found any other report of any other major incident from the railway and any report I have normally heard prior to this has always been of high respect for them
     
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    I have read nothing in this thread that could be deemed as 'damaging the KLR's reputation.' The incident is already in the public domain - speculation on sites such as this is a natural occurence.
     
  17. stan the man

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    Exactly what I was thinking.

    Stan
     
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    I appreciate your view sir.

    Your speculation may be inevitable but it doesn't mean its accurate.

    We should support the KLR in its hard work to get past this one off incident, on an otherwise impeccable safety record.

    Regards. DT

    Loyal customer and supporter of KLR
     
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    Nor would mine, and yes it is removed, cleaned and inspected before being refitted, as is the spare; he also checks the threads in the firebox crown.
     
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