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Locomotive tender classification

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    While most enthusiasts are familiar with different locomotive tenders being identified by the designer and water capacity(for example Collett 4000 gallon or Maunsell 3500 gallon) how did railway staff prior to 1968 identify them?

    Was there any difference in terminology used by footplate staff, shed fitters and works staff?

    Justin
     
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    The BR Standards had a class system of sorts for various tender types (1B, 1G etc).
     
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    Whilst I can understand certain variations, for loco's running backwards a lot for instance, there do seem to be a lot of variations of the 'standard' tender?
     
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    Problem with tenders (particularly with Standards that could in theory be transferred anywhere) is there isn't a one size fits all solution, for example, the Southern as well documented, had no water troughs, so the largest capacity tender was favoured for loco's here when possible, additionally I believe Schools usually worked through Lymington trains as nothing larger would fit Brockenhurst Turntable, on the Standards anyway, inset coal bunkers were favoured where possible to aid rearward vision, course the most famous example being corridor tender required for non stop London - Scotland.

    Would I be right in guessing it was a similar reason to the Schools on Lymingtons why B12's had such tiny tenders ?.
     
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    Don't forget from around 1961 some Schools received the large bogie tenders from withdrawn Lord Nelsons. The tender was nearly as big as the loco!


    http://www.semgonline.com/steam/pics/mm_30912-1.jpg
     
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    The Bulleid used for the 1948 exchanges was paired with a tender from a Stanier 8F.
    As fir the BR Standard tenders; Duke of Gloucester is paired with the tender from a 9F, but it looks right.
    It was a frequent occurrence for locos going into Swindon for overhaul would emerge with a completely different tender.
     
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    Wasn't the Duke's original tender the only BR Std tender with a coal pusher? IIRC it went to Briton Ferry steelworks for use as an ingot carrier. Ray.
     
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    The final batch of ten Britannias had BR1D tenders, these had coal pushers fitted.
     
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    I meant to ask about that, I presume it was to make use of other regions troughs, as all LNER, LMS & GWR Loco's in the trials retained their standard tenders.
     
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    If memory serves the LMS locos used on Southern metals ran with Dub Dee tenders.
     

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