LSWR wagon 15269

I am currently researching the history of LSWR wagon 15269. The VCT details are on the following link:

http://www.ws.vintagecarriagestrust.org/ws/WagonInfo.asp?Ref=3559

I have a few questions, which I thought people might know the answer to.
1) Is it a 4 or 5-plank wagon? The VCT says 4, but the railway says 5! To me it looks like it has 4.5 planks!
2) What diagram was it given by the SR? My guess is Dia. 1310, but can anyone confirm?
3) What sort of traffic would this wagon have been used for; coal or general merchandise?
4) If the LSWR number was 15269, what would the SR number have been? (This assumes the ID of 15269 is correct and not fictitious, since it was sold to RNAD as 227 after withdrawal).

Many thanks for any help

 

Looking at the VCT image, I'll say four plank, what looks like the half plank appears to be the hinge support for the door.
I am basing this on the two waggons we did for the Bowes Railway, one of which: B-49 had drop sides, but was a half-high with two plank sides.
see: http://stanegaterestorationsandreplicas.fotopic.net/p62907359.html , have a look at one or two of the other images.
I would not like to hazard a guess as to the sort of traffic it would have been used for, but provided you do not hold me to it! I would tend towards general goods.

added : Also, under the end planks you can see the size of the floor (deck) planks.

 

According to SR Wagons Vol.1 (Bixley, Blackburn, Chorley, King and Newton), on P.9, LSWR wagons were numbered thus:

"The main wagon numbering list started at one and reached a maximum of 15268 in 1914, when the ex-Somerset & Dorset line stock was added to the list."

It goes on to say that the SR when formed carried out a complete re-numbering of all of the wagons it inherited, grouping them logically by type.

So the answer to question 4 is that (a) it appears to have a fictitious number (whoever last restored it has taken the next one available), and (b) it is pretty well impossible to translate LSWR to SR numbers without a lot of further research. Although I'll caveat that by saying that I didn't look in the appendix, just the main text. But without an original LSWR number you've got nothing to go on anyway.

It would be worth seeing if there is a number stamped on the underframe where the worksplate should be, though not all companies/builders did this and later corrosion sometimes renders them unreadable anyway.

Sorry it wasn't a more positive answer!

Phil

 

Many thanks for the information. The wagon has a wooden underframe, so it is unlikely to have an identity stamped there. It also won't be possible to rub down the paint on the side to look for previous identities, as much of the wood was replaced during its most recent cosmetic restoration.

The wagon was previously numbered RNAD 227, if anyone has a list of former identities of MoD stock.

thanks again

 

To my surprise, we found traces of what might have been B-49 carved into part of the underframe during the demolition phase of the Grey Waggon rebuild.