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Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Discussion in 'Narrow Gauge Railways' started by 50044 Exeter, Dec 25, 2009.

  1. goughball01

    goughball01 New Member

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    I have just received notification of the site visits on 13th May:
     

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    I thought they said that the application would be accepted/denied within six months, what was the date that it was submitted?
     
  3. John Stewart

    John Stewart Part of the furniture

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    Oh you never believe that. The time taken to determine a contentious planning application is the proverbial piece of string.
     
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  4. Felix Holt

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    Generally positive reports from both ENPA and North Devon planning meetings on the members' part of the L&B website.
     
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    The ENPA Planning Meeting can be listened to in full, here (all 3 hours 9 minutes of it). If you're interested, it is worth a listen, as most of the meeting is devoted to the L&B applications, with an overview of the applications presented, followed by speeches by a number of objectors (including Mr. and Mrs. Grob), and then a response from L&B Director, Ian Cowling and Planning Advisor, James Shorten.

    Funny how only one of the objectors has a North Devon accent! I would also be interested to know who is heard sniggering (and why) at the suggestion of a shuttle bus from Woody Bay to Lynton. I also had no idea that the L&B was a miniature railway!
     
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    How did the ENPA site visit go yesterday?
     
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    Looks like the next Exmoor National Park Authority meeting will be on June 7th. Don't know if we are to expect any updates / decisions at that meeting.
     
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    It would be great if we did, but I suspect we are in for the long haul

    Colin
     
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    Word on the grapevine - so as usual take it with as much salt as you wish and believe it or not - is that it is being called in for a planning inquiry.

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    Is is that a good thing or bad thing? I'm a little confused as to what this could mean...
     
  11. mgp

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    That's strange - I thought from this and other threads you gave the impression you thought you were quite well versed in legal matters...
     
  12. Felix Holt

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    Decision not expected until September or October we hear... :(
     
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  13. Charobin

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    In a nutshell:
    • Several day (or week) public inquiry held where all interested parties are able to give their views
    • A planning inspector prepares a report from the inquiry, which recommends approval or refusal of the plans
    • The Secretary of State makes a final decision after the report
    Ultimately it means the decision would be taken out of the local planning authorities' hands - and probably not made this year. That is, of course, if the info I have had is correct and it is being called in.
     
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    Not entirely sure when I ever gave the impression I was experienced in legal matters such as this, because I can honestly say I'm not.

    Though I'm not entirely sure what it is your trying to state or imply either... care to clarify?
     
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    I think that MGP may have been confusing you with the ever present 'Julian'?
     
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    If this is the case, then it has to be bad news. It's also fairly puzzling. ENPA have the reinstatement of the railway in their long-term plan, the application by the L&B is to fulfill that intention. It must be one of the most comprehensive applications they've ever received, but it seems that a handful (a small handful) of nimbys has made them run scared to the cover of calling the application in. If one was of a suspicious mind, one might think that cronyism is at play here.... :(
     
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  17. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

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    An alternative analysis is possible.

    At the moment the L&B runs from nowhere to nowhere (but ever so delightfully) over a mile in the middle of nowhere, affecting no-one in particular.

    The present application marks the point where it steps up to a line from sort of somewhere via somewhere, and certainly raises the real prospect of, in time, running from somewhere to somewhere in quite a significant and useful manner.

    Perhaps the view might have been taken that marking that change needs a more substantial enquiry, and, blessed with the principle endorsement that an enquiry can bestow, the L&B's wake from sleep can then be accepted as a public good, leaving future extension applications to focus on practicalities and any real local difficulties, rather than principle.

    I did listen to the planning meeting recording (while ironing) a couple of days ago. The objections are really based on fear and exaggerated concern about the effect of the potential nearby railway. I do think that a visit over the hill to West Somerset might help, but folks do get very 'dug in' to their positions.

    On to Barnstaple!

    Robin
     
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    Apologies - that is indeed the case!

    Mike
     
  19. JMJR1000

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    Ah, well that's fair enough then, no harm done.
    Nice of you to apologise.
     
  20. Felix Holt

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    Well, my grapevine says something quite different from Charobin's. It says the ENPA will not be calling in the application, but will support it with a set of conditions. Whether this is approved at the next meeting, or not until the Autumn, we'll have to see.
     
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