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Maunsell Loco designs of the S.R. : Lord Nelson class 4-6-0

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  1. neildimmer

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    The SR class LN or Lord Nelson class is a type of 4-cylinder 4-6-0 steam locomotive designed for the Southern Railway by Richard Maunsell in 1926. They were intended for Continental boat trains between London (Victoria) and Dover harbour, but were also later used for express passenger work to the South-West of England. Sixteen of them were constructed, representing the most powerful (although not the most successful) Southern 4-6-0 design. They were all named after famous admirals.
    The class continued to operate with British Railways until withdrawn during 1961 and 1962
    The prototype E850 named Lord Nelson was ordered from Eastleigh railway works in June 1925 but production proceeded slowly, at Maunsell’s insistence, to ensure that the weight was kept to a minimum at every stage, so the locomotive did not appear until August 1926. It was tested on a variety of duties over the next year, with sufficiently encouraging results for an initial order for ten more locomotives for delivery between May 1928 and April 1929 to be placed. These were originally scheduled to be allocated to Battersea depot and fitted with 4,000 gallon 6-wheeled tenders suitable for the Continental ports. However, during construction, it was decided to equip half of the class with 5,000 gallon 8-wheeled tenders necessary for the longer West of England routes and to allocate them to Nine Elms depot. A further batch of ten locomotives was ordered in 1928, before the previous batch had been delivered, but when it became apparent that the Stock Market Crash of 1929 would be likely to reduce the demand for Continental travel, this second order was reduced to five
    The class was gradually superseded on top link expresses during the 1940s by growing numbers of Bulleid Pacifics, although throughout the 1950s they were frequently called upon during peak periods or to deputise for failures. The rebuilding of the Pacifics in the late 1950s and their subsequent increased reliability rendered the Lord Nelson surplus to operational requirements, and they were gradually phased out of service. The entire class was withdrawn during 1961 and 1962. Info from Wikipedia



    This 1st collection features the prototype loco 850/30850 Lord Nelson built 1926 at Eastleigh




    This first photo is of 850 on a Royal Train working featuring Pullman stock no date or location or passengers



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    Lord Nelson Class 850/30850 Built 1926 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    850 without smoke deflectors probably a posed works photo



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    Lord Nelson Class 850/30850 Built 1926 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    850 unknown location and date



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    Lord Nelson Class 850/30850 Built 1926 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    B.R. Days courtesy of Nigel Kendall

    30850 Lord Nelson New Milton 10/5/62

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    30850 Lord Nelson New Milton 6/3/62


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    New Milton, Hants
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    Neil
     
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    The SR class LN or Lord Nelson class is a type of 4-cylinder 4-6-0 steam locomotive designed for the Southern Railway by Richard Maunsell in 1926. They were intended for Continental boat trains between London (Victoria) and Dover harbour, but were also later used for express passenger work to the South-West of England. Sixteen of them were constructed, representing the most powerful (although not the most successful) Southern 4-6-0 design. They were all named after famous admirals.
    The class continued to operate with British Railways until withdrawn during 1961 and 1962
    The prototype E850 named Lord Nelson was ordered from Eastleigh railway works in June 1925 but production proceeded slowly, at Maunsell’s insistence, to ensure that the weight was kept to a minimum at every stage, so the locomotive did not appear until August 1926. It was tested on a variety of duties over the next year, with sufficiently encouraging results for an initial order for ten more locomotives for delivery between May 1928 and April 1929 to be placed. These were originally scheduled to be allocated to Battersea depot and fitted with 4,000 gallon 6-wheeled tenders suitable for the Continental ports. However, during construction, it was decided to equip half of the class with 5,000 gallon 8-wheeled tenders necessary for the longer West of England routes and to allocate them to Nine Elms depot. A further batch of ten locomotives was ordered in 1928, before the previous batch had been delivered, but when it became apparent that the Stock Market Crash of 1929 would be likely to reduce the demand for Continental travel, this second order was reduced to five
    The class was gradually superseded on top link expresses during the 1940s by growing numbers of Bulleid Pacifics, although throughout the 1950s they were frequently called upon during peak periods or to deputise for failures. The rebuilding of the Pacifics in the late 1950s and their subsequent increased reliability rendered the Lord Nelson surplus to operational requirements, and they were gradually phased out of service. The entire class was withdrawn during 1961 and 1962. Info from Wikipedia



    This 2nd collection features 851-857/30851-30857 built 1926 at Eastleigh








    S.R. days


    856 Lord St. Vincent

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    856 Lord St Vincent Nine Elms

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    854 Howard of Effingham

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    B.R.Days




    30851 Sir Francis Drake Eastleigh September 1954



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    30851 Sir Francis Drake Petts Wood 12th May 1953


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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    30855 Robert Blake

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    30855 Robert Blake

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    30855 Robert Blake near Southampton 9th May 1950

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    30857 Lord Howe Eastleigh shed 22-8-1962

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    30857 Lord Howe near Waterloo 23rd May 1959

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    30857 Lord Howe Southampton

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    Lord Nelson Class 851-857/30851-30857 Built 1928 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    Neil
     
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    The SR class LN or Lord Nelson class is a type of 4-cylinder 4-6-0 steam locomotive designed for the Southern Railway by Richard Maunsell in 1926. They were intended for Continental boat trains between London (Victoria) and Dover harbour, but were also later used for express passenger work to the South-West of England. Sixteen of them were constructed, representing the most powerful (although not the most successful) Southern 4-6-0 design. They were all named after famous admirals.
    The class continued to operate with British Railways until withdrawn during 1961 and 1962
    The prototype E850 named Lord Nelson was ordered from Eastleigh railway works in June 1925 but production proceeded slowly, at Maunsell’s insistence, to ensure that the weight was kept to a minimum at every stage, so the locomotive did not appear until August 1926. It was tested on a variety of duties over the next year, with sufficiently encouraging results for an initial order for ten more locomotives for delivery between May 1928 and April 1929 to be placed. These were originally scheduled to be allocated to Battersea depot and fitted with 4,000 gallon 6-wheeled tenders suitable for the Continental ports. However, during construction, it was decided to equip half of the class with 5,000 gallon 8-wheeled tenders necessary for the longer West of England routes and to allocate them to Nine Elms depot. A further batch of ten locomotives was ordered in 1928, before the previous batch had been delivered, but when it became apparent that the Stock Market Crash of 1929 would be likely to reduce the demand for Continental travel, this second order was reduced to five
    The class was gradually superseded on top link expresses during the 1940s by growing numbers of Bulleid Pacifics, although throughout the 1950s they were frequently called upon during peak periods or to deputise for failures. The rebuilding of the Pacifics in the late 1950s and their subsequent increased reliability rendered the Lord Nelson surplus to operational requirements, and they were gradually phased out of service. The entire class was withdrawn during 1961 and 1962. Info from Wikipedia







    This 3rd collection features 858-865 built 1929 at Eastleigh in S.R.days


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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    858 Lord Duncan



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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    859 Lord Hood



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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    860 Lord Hawke


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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    862 Lord Collingwood
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    863 Lord Rodney
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    864 Sir Martin Frobisher
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    865 Sir John Hawkings



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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    Lord Nelson Class 858-865/30858-30865 Built 1929 Eastleigh - Railway-Photography
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    Neil
     
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    Hi Neil,

    Thanks for posting the Lord Nelson class photos.

    Image 16 of 38 - 864 - is between Millbrook and Southampton Central on the Up Local line.
    Images 24 and 31 of 38 (859 and 860) are definitely Bournemouth West.

    Cheers, Neil
     
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