Despite many hours of discussion and lunches I never got onto Mike's list for receiving his tables. He said he would but never got around to it unfortunately. It's a great pity they were not published. Don Benn's Southern collection 1965-1967 in his recent book are fascinating to we lovers of timings. We often discussed Hemerdon with Mike when he did come down south, which wasn't that often unfortunately, and elsewhere at times. Couldn't persuade him to use 239.5 how ever many beers we bought him!! As Al said above, Dainton is easy; but again Rattery was always a bit of a bone of contention. Purists use(d) the top of the 1 in 52, 99% of the time the 'slowest speed' point at 225.5 as Al referenced above; but that ignores a short section of 1 in 74, 3/4 mile of 1 in 90 and then 1/2 mile and a bit of 1 in 95 with a sharp few hundred yards of 1 in 65 that still catches some drivers out, so we use 227.25 (Rattery Viaduct which is pretty flat) or 227.5 just off the viaduct. Fun things summits; lots of beer consumed discussing them to this day and no doubt beyond!!! Back to the train last Sunday, times were: Rattery MP223 - MP227.5: 9m 34.8. Hemerdon MP242.5 - MP238.5: 6m 33.1s unfortunately I 'lost' the mileposts after Totnes so don't have the Dainton Eastbound time.