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Severn Valley Railway Autumn Steam Gala 18-21th September 2014

Discussion in 'Galas and Events' started by Kje7812, Mar 28, 2014.

  1. Duty Druid

    Duty Druid Resident of Nat Pres

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    Ooops, sorry...... Freudian slip of a keyboard finger?................... :oops:

    Sorry, FS123 - nothing was aimed at you. :) This time! ;)
     
  2. Kje7812

    Kje7812 Well-Known Member

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    Not quite, S2 is set M(8) on all 4 days. At KR, L2 is added to make the set up to 10, then the set is taken to BH where it is split into ON1 and ON2.
    L1 and L2 are both LMS coaches, with L3 being a LMS coach and a GW one (as there's 2 LM brakes, the GW coach must be the brake in L3)
    S1 is GW2 Friday to Sunday (Tomorrow it is set N)
    S3 is N(8) Friday to Sunday
    N1 is C on all 4 days with the Venture coaches added for brunch train
     
  3. threelinkdave

    threelinkdave Well-Known Member

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    calm down you lot. Just turn up and enjoy the gala in whatever way meets your needs. Personally guard S1 17.30 ex KD fri, gricing sat and s2 sunday
     
  4. Duty Druid

    Duty Druid Resident of Nat Pres

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    I am calm......... flat out like a lizard drinking! :)
     
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    So, if I've got it right:

    S2 = M8

    M8 + L2 = ON1 + ON2

    S1 = GW2 except when it is N

    S3 = N8 except when it isn't.

    N1 = C but also N1 = C + VV (which suggests VV = 0, if my algebra is correct).

    L1 is a function of LMS, as is L2 but L3 is a function of both LMS and GW.

    Now, solving those simultaneous equations and taking the differential with respect to t suggests ... Just turn up and see what appears!

    Tom (with affection, not malice!)
     
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    Tom you forgot to factor that VV=L(1) + M(1) (LMS dining car + BR Kitchen)

    I think your advice is spot on and I have been studying the WTT for a week
     
  7. Kje7812

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    Ah, I suspect maths can't be applied to the Valley ;) (says the one doing a chemistry degree)
     
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  8. Duty Druid

    Duty Druid Resident of Nat Pres

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    Why cant they call the rakes Teaks, LMS, GWR or MkI's?.......................... too easy I suppose........
     
  9. Kje7812

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    You're not the only one wondering...Certainly it used to say the actual sets rather than the set diagram.
     
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    It would not be so much fun to be that simple.

    Seriously I think the problem lies in using S and N to describe north and south gala sets and their normal uses as s=special (GW Dining set) and N = teaks. Also teaks would not fit in tha space in the TN. We also need to differentiate between the Carmine & Cream MK1 set and the maroon MK1 set. These are also the risks in going public with a complex w
    To misquote Roger Rabbit "It would not be so much fun"

    Actually the problem is using N twice with different meanings. normally Bridgnorth trains are AN1, BN1 CN1 and KD AS1 BS1 and CS1 etc so no confusion with set descriptions.

    Also we use C= carmine and cream and M= maroon to differentiate the two MK1 SETS

    I have managed to fowl up this reply, I thought I had lost the first try but leaving it so you can all have a laugh at my expense
     
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    Pete Thornhill Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Administrator Moderator Friend

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    The teak sets N designation actually dates from the days when set N was 5 GWR and 3 teaks and stood for Nondescript.
    Back on topic - The Railway used to list them as the regular sets designation with the addition in brackets of the number of coaches along with a key in the ASG WTT and nobody used to get confused then. I don't know why they felt the need to change it from that tbh as it worked ok for many years.
     
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    Now I'm REALLY confused dot com!

    As for the difference between rakes of MkI's.......... whats wrong with saying Blood & Custard or Maroon.......................... Sooooo simple......... actually I don't care whats hauling what - as long as I get a ride in the most comfy stock - the TEAKS!! :) As for the rest of the time, I will no doubt window hang...... If I get there. ;)
     
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    Duty druid is clearly not formed as other men!
     
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    A few years ago the Teaks formed one of the overnight sets that I had behind 46443, the MK1's win hands down for getting a bit of kip!
     
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    Its easy once you get used to it.
    M= Maroons
    C= Carmines
    L= LMS
    N= North eastern
    S= Special (the old gw1, which now runs as a special train rather than in normal service. Usually only 5 coaches).
    Gw2 = Gw. Hawksworth. Collet and mark 1 rmb.
    Toplights= what it says on the tin.
     
  16. Kje7812

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    Teaks most comfortable?? LMS hands down as long as you're not directly over the bogies but then that applies to most stock.
     
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    I'm biased............ look at my signature.............;)

    Having ridden the Teaks, LMS & some other so called coaches from a n other Rly recently........... I can safely say the Teaks are the most Comfy :), The experimental MkI next, followed by a n other..... with the LMS stuff bringing up the rear..... or should that be hard on the rear - NOT a comfy ride! :eek:
     
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    We agree to disagree there then. As long as it's not got a wheel flat which rules out most of the brakes (they aren't flat enough to qualify for turning)

    Ooh Matron...
     
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    PMSL! :) you naughty man you! :eek:

    As for the Teaks, say no more - I don't come to the valley that often, so for me to say the most comfy ride must say something.............. shows how well SNG designed them. ;)
     
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    The weather for next few days is mixed depending on which forecast you follow. Tomorrow is likely to be similar to today: cloudy start then sunshine. The weekend might brng some rain, thundery at times into the equation...oh well
     

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