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Sir Nigel Gresley - The L.N.E.R.’s First C.M.E.

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by S.A.C. Martin, Dec 3, 2021.

  1. RAB3L

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    Belatedly, from above:

    I would suggest that the Chief of the Motive Power Department of the Sud-Est would have known more about the reliability of the 240Ps than Mr Durrant!

    https://www.martynbane.co.uk/france/lemistral07/241p.html
     
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    An updated list of locomotives built, rebuilt or influenced by Chapelon.

    Built/Rebuilt/Modified:

    231 Est 051 to 073 23
    231 PO 3701 to 3731 31
    231 Nord 3.1111 to 3.1130 and 3.1171 to 3.1198 48 (Second batch new)
    231 PO 3801 to 3806 and 3821 to 3829 15
    140 PO 5001 to 5067 67
    231 PO 3601 to 3650 50
    141P SNCF 318 (New)
    240A/240P 37
    160A1 1
    242A1 1
    142 GELSA 66
    242 GELSA 24
    141R 165

    Influenced:

    150 Nord 5.1201 to 5.1230 30
    150P 115
    État 231-501 to 231-783 215
    231 PLM 2 to 86 84
    231G entre 2 to 285 284
    140J 170
    141 D 124
    141 E 254
    141 F 195
    141R 640
    Est 230K 177
    Est 231B 40
    231 H 30
    241 Est 241002 to 241041 and 241 État 241-001 to 241-049 90
    232R 3
    232S 4
    232U 1
    241P 35
    Czech Series 556 510
    RENFE 141 F 240
    PLM 5-231 E 71
    PLM 5-231 H 30
    PLM 5-241 D 145
    PLM 5-241 E 27 1
    PLM 5-150 A 10
    PO 231 4500 to 4570 33 (remainder converted to 240P)
    PO 231 4571 to 4600 30
    Est 1-230 3501 t0 3890 36
    Etat 3-141 C 250
    Etat 3-231 D 135
    Etat 3-231 DD 31
    Etat 3-231 W 21
    Etat 3-231 H 92
    Etat 3-231 R 6
    Etat 3-231 C 24
    AL S14 1-231 B 60
    LNER A2 6
    LNER Peppercorn A1 49
    LNER A1/1 1
    LNER A2/1 4
    LNER A2/2 6
    LNER A2/3 15
    LNER/BR A3 79

    LNER A4 35
    LNER P2 6 (Kylchap not fitted to 2005 but fitted to 2007)
    LNER/BR V2 8
    BR 71000 1
    BR 60163 1
    CSD 387.001 6
    CSD 475.1 172
    CSD 476.001 3
    CSD 498.0 40
    CSD 498.1 15

    Total 5,558

    All of the second series of 141R were equipped from new with Kylchap exhausts. A large proportion of the first series of 141Rs were also subsequently equipped with Kylchaps but as numbers are not available, they have not been included.
     
  3. Fred Kerr

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    I think "Dusty" Durrant opinions need to be taken with a pinch of salt. Remembering that he was Swindon trained AND noting that Swindon opinions replaced the designated Kylchap chimney on 71000 with a standard Swindon double chimney hence part of the reasons for its poor steaming in BR days suggests that Swindon standards may not be the best guide to locomotive performance. Having met Dusty during visits to South Africa I can vouch for his self opinionated personna but he was an engagingly memorable character especially when discussing his love of Beyer Garrets.
     

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