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St David's Day Special - Victoria to Cardiff - March 1st - 70013

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  1. Steve from GWR

    Steve from GWR Well-Known Member

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    The times for this are now up on the Steam Dreams website:

    http://www.steamdreams.co.uk/executables/GT410WebContent.exe?ActionCode=Timings

    Oliver Cromwell is the rostered loco, in place of Tornado. Are there any signs that she will be ready for this run?
     
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    Blimey the trip is almost sold out and they haven't got a loco but they have timings! We didn't bother with this run as it was rather a lot of money for a run to Cardiff from Ascot. Would have done it if it had still been going to Carmarthen. Wonder what will haul this instead of 70013?
     
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    Steam Dreams site now reads Tangmere.

    Mike M. (70c)
     
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    Oh, well that's in gauge for Ascot so they won't have to change the route. Be nice to see her out and about again, she was the first preserved loco I saw round the Ascot, Bracknell route.
     
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    It is quite likely that 44932 will now haul this train, as 34067 may not be ready in time.
     
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    I presume the 60mph limit will not be an issue on the GW (HST) main line. This trip, for various reasons, seems to have had a lot of hicups, 4 different locos allocated & several route alterations.
    I believe at one stage it was intended to use 2 different locos on the trip, changing at Bristol Parkway.
     
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    Tornado...down to a Stanier 5. Carmarthen...down to Cardiff. Feels like this is going to be a somewhat different trip from that which was planned. Such is the frustration of planning steam trips nowadays it would seem
     
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    Glad we didn't book this one now. I would guess that 44932 will have to have "assistance" from a Diesel now as the load is listed as 12 carriages. A frustrating time for railtour operators. Hope the tour goes well though.
     
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  11. jane

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    Light Movement times for tangmere being shown on the tangmere thread on this web site ;
    STEAM TRACTION;
    all the best
    jane ;
     
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    Is anyone on this tour who would be willing to provide live updates ? PM me or admin please
     
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    not going anywhere today.
     
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    Thanks for update will stay at home in the warm then;

    all the best
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    What about 44932 which is down as alternative motive power to 34067? Is that at Carnforth too or is it already at Southall?
     
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    Sadly you are probably right on that one as it'll be too slow otherwise, especially on starts. It's not a trip I'm now looking forward to. I just hope that Steam Dreams doesn't come to regret using WCR on more of its work. Has anyone carried out a 'poll' on loco substitutions and whether some set-ups have a better track record than others?
     
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    What's the alternative ?

    35028 is generally tied to VSOE , 71000 still at Bury , 6201 under maintenance , 60163 minus boiler, 70013 still being put back together , none of which are WCRC's fault . at lease WCRC have 44932 in London and able to deputise .

    60019 apparently is out of the frame , 60007 back up at NYMR , 6233 under overhaul , 70000 not quite ready ......
     
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    Agreed. This time of year, with less work about, many of the regulars are having winter maintenance. I guess many of them won't have a current 6-monthly ticket, since they're not expecting more work until the spring. 44932 is not the ideal loco for this job, but at least she's steam.
     
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    Lets not forget 45231 proved what the Black Five's are capable of with some great runs in the past. Lets see what tomorrow brings. I will be out lineside somewhere,dad on board.
     
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    Sooner this silly stepped speed restriction is revised the better, its a little daft that a STD 4 2-6-0 and a black 5 are allowed 60, a Standard 5 is allowed 75 (?) but the same ceiling applies to an A4 ...

    A direct translation into mph per driving wheel diameter(inches) makes more sense. Sure if the owners are happy with this then the traction inspector on the day should be allowed a 5% or more leeway on this max.

    Allowing faster running on sections of track where modern traction is constantly pushing 100mph would surely alleviate potential problems with late running/ relatively slow steam charters and if they know theres a long stretch of the legs at 80mph down the line theres less pressure on the crew to push the loco to its limits to get to 60mph asap
     
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