Yeah, I take both points, just not sure how well it sits with the message of frugality the railway is putting out to visitors and volunteers. How much of an extra incentive to attend is it having 813 double head with 7714 when 813 will be out again a couple of weeks later at the Spring gala? Of course we're limited in terms of double heading by our infrastructure anyway. 7714 is quite capable of taking 7/8 coach sets independently... I think the main reason for 813's addition is "the show". None of this by the way is intended to knock 813, which is always a delight to see working!