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The G5 Project

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by DLPG, Feb 23, 2011.

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  1. DLPG

    DLPG New Member Loco Owner

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    Hi,

    A link to the G5 project for latest news, etc.


    Regards

    Paul
     
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  2. Steve from GWR

    Steve from GWR Well-Known Member

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    Thank you, very good to read about all the progress. Good luck with the continuation. I look forward to seeing her run.

    What will her number be, and when can we start the livery arguments?
     
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  3. Gav106

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    maybe a poll should be started to decide ??
     
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  4. Anthony Coulls

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    I think it's been decided that the G5 will be NER green and that's the end of it. Or so I was told...
     
    Anthony Coulls, Feb 23, 2011
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    61624 Part of the furniture

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    There's no need for a poll. The group that are building it are putting up £50K each so what they say goes! If you want to take a share in it I'm sure they'll be happy to take your wishes into account. I'm just pleased to see it being built and couldn't care what colour anti-corrosion protection is applied!
     
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  6. DLPG

    DLPG New Member Loco Owner

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    It will be NER green. Bogie and westinghouse pump is already painted! I'm sure it will appear in various liveries over time.
     
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    It was a joke. Everything on this forum seems to end up in stupid polls that won't change any opinion of the owners. Who should always have the say as they pay the bills not forum members telling you that you can't have a red 8f
     
    Gav106, Feb 24, 2011
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    Gav106 you are right! (However IMHO a red 8F is a total travesty, and its really naughty of the owners to do it. Looks nice though even though it goes against my opinion and of course it works well too!) now where's the keys to the outrage bus? I can remember posting on this forum that the red 8F was just a wind-up and that it would definitely never happen. It doesn't pay to write fibs does it?!) This NER G5 looks brilliant.
     
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  9. Steve from GWR

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    My comment was also meant to be funny........
     
    Steve from GWR, Feb 24, 2011
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  10. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Never to soon to start a livery argument. :)
     
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  11. Spamcan81

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    Good to see the progress being made. There is an Argo EP titled "G5s on the Push & Pull." If someone had told me when I bought it that one day there'd be a good chance I could make my own recordings of a G5, I would have considered them mad.
     
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  12. Ploughman

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    As regards livery.
    At least its not yet another black engine.

    All the best to you in getting the G5 project moving.
     
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    Very exciting project - the bogie of the G5 was on display at Shildon when I visited at the end of January. It'll look fantastic in NER Green, can't wait to see it
     
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    It depends how you look at your authenticity... I believe I'm right in thinking that red was the passenger livery and black the freight livery. So if she is now a passenger locomotive, as she clearly is because those are the duties rostered for, then she should be painted red. Surely its far more authentic to tow your passenger trains with a red engine rather than a black one.
     
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    No. 9Fs were freight locos yet worked passenger trains but this doesn't mean they should have been painted in BR green. Using your logic, an awful lot of preserved locos will have to be repainted.
     
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    92220? That was passenger green......
    OK, it's the exception that proves the rule!
     
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    OK, I'm playing devil's advocate, but the point is that whatever happens with preserved steam is always a compromise between strict historical accuracy and practicality. Each line has to strike a balance the best way they can in order to achieve the primary aim of keeping steam running. I'm trying to make the point that the more doctrinaire you get about historical accuracy in one direction then that inevitably leads you to inaccuracies in another. If you use a heavy freight locomotive solely as a passenger engine (as opposed to the odd passenger duty) then that's a major inaccuracy, and I don't really see that its very much worse to paint it in the right livery for the duties it now performs than it is to paint it in the livery that was used for duties that no longer exist. If the LMS had had a class of small wheeled 2-8-0 passenger engines they would undoubtedly have been painted red.
     
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  18. Spamcan81

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    Agreed but that was because it was the last steam loco to be built by BR and not whether it was gong to work passenger trains or not. Anyway, Swindon liked painting locos green, evidence the number of MT locos which got the green treatment at Swindon.
     
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    The roster clerk at Cardiff Canton MPD didn't know that about 92220. It was regularly used on the Red Dragon until management put an end to it. To him, green livery meant a passenger loco.
     
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    Imagine what they would have rostered some of the green Ivatt Class 2 2-6-0s for if any had been allocated to Canton.
     
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