As Andrew has already pointed, The Talyllyn is not in what is understood to be North Wales but Mid Wales and in entirely different tourist area which, in the past, mainly attracted visitors from the English Midlands. The Snowdonia area, on the other hand, has been the traditional playground for the North West of England. I'm not quite sure what anyone means by stating that the Welsh Highland is 'manufactured'. All railways are manufactured and did not spring up fully formed with the landscape but were built to serve it. Why does that make the WHR any different? It follows the same route as its predecessor and the mountains, rivers and lakes are still there. The proof of the pudding, of course, is whether it will thrive. I would guess that more passengers have used the railway, so far, than in the whole of its previous incarnation which was an abject failure. Underpowered locomotives and ancient rolling stock were of no more interest to the average tourist of the Twenties and Thirties than they are today. Today's tourists expect things like at seat service and toilets and we ignore that at our peril. So called 'railway enthusiasts' do not pay the bills. Ordinary families from Warrington; Bury; Oldam and Manchester etc. do. I hope that the Talyllyn will weather the storm because of its special place in preservation history but, as has been repeatedly pointed out, Tywyn and the area has little else, apart from the beach, to attract the holidaymaker.