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Trans-Pennine route gauging

Discussie in 'Steam Traction' gestart door neildimmer, 9 okt 2014.

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  1. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    Does anyone know if the 2 Transpennine routes have been gauged yet?
    or is everything larger than a Jub/Black 5 still banned?

    any one in the know?

    regards

    Neil
     
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  2. D7076

    D7076 Well-Known Member

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    185s still ok.....
     
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  3. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    shame:eek:
     
    neildimmer, 9 okt 2014
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    paullad1984 vindt dit leuk.
  4. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    47s are Ok as well... we didn't hit anything last Monday.
     
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  5. Bulleid Pacific

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    I'll throw in a Class 142... Or whatever other type of bus on wheels Northern sometimes uses over the route. Seriously, is this due to a change of gauging software or what ? I don't remember the back-story to this issue.
     
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    142, Sometimes use????:eek: Hell, they infest the routes round these parts, whoever owns Northern Rail (Serco I think) sure as hell intend to run those damn things into the ground. It's "interesting" exiting Morley tunnel for the gallop down the hill to Batley and Dewsbury, those drivers have no fear whatsoever.:eek:
     
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    I think there is thoughts on using them until 2020:(.......
     
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    That is not a thought to be lingered on or savoured in any way :/
     
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    The people who are behind the thinking of 2020 should buy a ticket and try them on the 15:05 service Carlisle to Leeds, regularly 2 cars, damn disgrace.:mad:
     
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    Yes all the pensioners taking advantage of a cheap return to get to a different pub for lunch.;)
     
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    :oops::oops:
     
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    However, I've been led to understand that unless they are made more wheelchair friendly, they will effectively be illegal from 2019.
     
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    Perhaps melted down and rolled into very flat sheets would make them wheelchair friendly?
     
    Martin Perry, 11 okt 2014
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    46223 en osprey vinden dit leuk.
  14. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    any more info on gauging?
     
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  15. The Crimson Pirate

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    New surveys are available for

    ELR Structure Type Structure SubType Structure Description Structure Identifier Line Number Structure Start Mileage Survey ID Survey Method Survey Creation Date
    MVL3 Platform Platform Mossley Station Up Platform 1100 010,39,00 539651 Platform Gauge 12/11/2014 10:16
    MVN2 Platform Platform Brighouse Station Down Platform 2100 034,29,02 539346 Platform Gauge 10/11/2014 13:16
    MVN2 Platform Platform Brighouse Station Up Platform 1100 034,28,21 538291 Platform Gauge 31/10/2014 13:55
    MVN2 Platform Platform Castleton Station Down Platform 2100 008,64,21 536289 Platform Gauge 08/10/2014 16:05
    MVN2 Platform Platform Hebden Bridge Station Down Platform 2100 023,47,06 539921 Platform Gauge 14/11/2014 09:51
    MVN2 Platform Platform Hebden Bridge Station Up Platform 1100 023,45,09 539920 Platform Gauge 14/11/2014 09:49
    MVN2 Platform Platform Mills Hill Station Up Platform 1100 005,71,16 536325 Platform Gauge 13/10/2014 10:35
    MVN2 Platform Platform Moston Station Up Platform 1100 003,76,08 539681 Platform Gauge 12/11/2014 13:48
    MVN2 Platform Platform Mytholmroyd Station Down Platform 2100 024,65,21 539919 Platform Gauge 14/11/2014 09:46
    MVN2 Platform Platform Mytholmroyd Station Up Platform 1100 024,65,21 539918 Platform Gauge 14/11/2014 09:43
    MVN2 Platform Platform Rochdale Station Down Platform 1 2100 010,34,09 540053 Platform Gauge 17/11/2014 09:01
    MVN2 Platform Platform Rochdale Station Platform 2 3600 010,37,17 536332 Platform Gauge 13/10/2014 11:25
    MVN2 Platform Platform Rochdale Station Up Platform 4 1100 010,34,11 536333 Platform Gauge 13/10/2014 11:30
    MVN2 Platform Platform Smithy Bridge Station Down Platform 2100 012,57,03 536283 Platform Gauge 08/10/2014 15:49
    MVN2 Platform Platform Smithy Bridge Station Up Platform 1100 012,58,08 536282 Platform Gauge 08/10/2014 15:44
    MVN2 Platform Platform Sowerby Bridge Station Down Platform 2100 028,44,19 538292 Platform Gauge 31/10/2014 13:55
    MVN2 Platform Platform Sowerby Bridge Station Up Platform 1100 028,44,19 538289 Platform Gauge 31/10/2014 13:40
    MVN2 Platform Platform Walsden Station Down Platform 2100 017,65,11 537286 Platform Gauge 23/10/2014 09:26
     
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  16. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    so how do you translate that to a locomotive?
     
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    Well, the platform is your round hole & your locomotive is your square peg.
    You get a bit of software and you try and jam the one into the other. :eek:
    As long as the difference is more than 41mm you get a railtour, otherwise you get a day doing something else.

    The answer your really after, is unless someone's slewed the track in Dean Royd or Weasel Hall Tunnel's away from the wall, then no, nothing has changed on the Manchester to Todmorden route (AFAIK) and your average Duchess/A4 won't be going that way anytime soon.o_O

    I can't remember what was up with Stalybridge route, other than capacity limitations.
    :confused:
     
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  18. neildimmer

    neildimmer Resident of Nat Pres

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    as far as I can remember, it was the line under a bridge at Mossley that had moved slightlyo_O
     
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  19. D7076

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    Huddersfield to Heaton Lodge Jct is the bit that matters....
     
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  20. The Crimson Pirate

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    There's a couple of tights spots on that route but the worst by far is
    2100 Dn Mossley Station Footbridge Bridge No.14 (footbridge)
    Track is on a cant, so yes looks like it's moved.
     
    The Crimson Pirate, 20 nov 2014
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