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VT Scarborough Flyer with 46233 - 30/6/2012

Discussion in 'What's Going On' started by campainr, Jun 25, 2012.

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  1. campainr

    campainr Well-Known Member

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    Sold out according to the VT website. Sutherland hauls entire outward journey, and as far as Derby on the return (and then moves with support coach back to Butterley I guess?)

    http://uksteam.info/tours/t12/t0630d.htm

    More interestingly though, 46233 is scheduled to arrive in York at exactly the same time as the "estimated" timings on the SD website for 60163 from Kings X to Durham.............and depart south at the same time as well.
     
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  2. Britfoamer

    Britfoamer Well-Known Member

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    This should make for interesting antics at Colton Junction for the linesider photographers, I assume 46233 will be on the Midland and 60163 on the Northern Eastern line. Looks like a 200 yard dash may be in order!
    For paraffin can followers (count me in) there are also 2 return adexes, 2Xcl37's going to Scarborough and a Statesman going to Durham I think. Anyone who can help with Colton passing times in both directions, it would be appreciated. See you all there Saturday.
     
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  3. markjkirby

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    hi britfoamer
    below are the times for the class 37's and northern belle york to bath and ecs.
    mark
    1Z47 Cardiff Central to Scarborough
    Cardiff Central 0559
    Wakefield Kirkgate 1139
    Altofts Jn 1145
    Castleford 1154
    Milford Jn. 1205
    Church Fenton 1210
    Colton Jn 1215
    York 1221 1224
    York Scarborough Bridge Jn 1226
    Malton 1251
    Seamer 1310
    Scarborough 1317

    1Z48 Scarborough to Cardiff Central
    Scarborough 1628
    Seamer 1632
    Malton 1648
    York Scarborough Bridge Jn 1711
    York 1712 1715
    Colton Jn 1720
    Church Fenton 1726
    Milford Jn. 1739
    Castleford 1754
    Altofts Jn 1759
    Wakefield Kirkgate 1808
    Cardiff Central 2342

    5Z25 Crewe CS to York
    Crewe C.s. 0330
    Leeds 0515 0520
    Neville H. West Jn 0524
    Cross Gates 0528
    Micklefield 0533
    Church Fenton 0540
    Colton Jn 0546
    York 0604

    1Z25 York to Bath Spa
    York 0653
    Colton Jn 0700
    Church Fenton 0708
    Micklefield 0713
    Cross Gates 0719
    Neville H. West Jn 0722
    Leeds 0727 0740
    North Somerset Jn 1154 1206
    Bath Spa 1218

    1Z26 Bath Spa to York
    Bath Spa 1755
    North Somerset Jn 1807
    Leeds 2232 2236
    Neville H. West Jn 2238
    Cross Gates 2242
    Micklefield 2247
    Church Fenton 2252
    Colton Jn 2257
    York 2305

    5Z26 York to Neville Hill
    York 2326
    Colton Jn 2333
    Church Fenton 2340
    Micklefield 2345
    Cross Gates 2351
    Neville H. West Jn 2356
    Leeds 2359 0011
    Marsh Lane Jn Leeds 0014
    Neville H. West Jn 0017
    Neville Hill T&r.s.m.d 0021








     
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  4. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    You wanted parallel running, I hope the cameras, still and video, are ready and there are also those on board well prepared to catch the event should it materialise.
     
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  5. Steamage

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    Steam tours between Doncaster and York are sometimes routed via Church Fenton (e.g. GB5), so quite a long stretch of parallel running is possible - in theory, all the way from Church Fenton to York. In real life, however, it's highly unlikely to work out!
     
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  6. david1984

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    I woulden't get too excited, the chances of paralell running in the event are very small, anyone who's been the GCR will tell you getting a pass in exactly the right place, despite what the timetable says, is easier said than done.

    Still best to be ready as you may just get lucky.
     
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  7. malc

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    Maybe we should wait for the "actual" timings for 60163 before we start getting too excited. Also, don't forget that 6233 will probably use platform 5 as it's going to Scarborough and 60163 will have to use platform 11 if it's taking water, so the two trains have to "swap sides" between Colton Jn and York which may rule out much parallel running (even if the arrival times are the same)
     
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    According to the Steam Dreams website ( booking page) arrival at York is 13:05( Approx timing was 13:00)

    Ticket arrived today(26/6) arrive York Platform 11 13:03.
     
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    Thanks for the diesel times Mark, I wasn't aware of the York - Bath adex. The Statesman site carries an apology to customers saying due to Network Rail they won't get times until Friday! Wonderful if you're booked on it.
     
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    Another tour NR are screwing over then...
     
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    Situation normal then!
     
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    Question

    Will the set be the VT Shakespeare set 7 coaches (avoids shunting at TYS on the return) plus Support plus 46233 Saloon

    Diesel light to Derby for the return or box on the back all day

    finally there is a proper pullman at TYS (Pegasus) Is this being used in this years SE set ?
     
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    The viewing gallery at the NRM might not be a bad place to be with 60163 and 46233 departing 1 minute apart.
     
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    Looking at the times, they pass somewhere between Church Fenton and Colton Junction. I would have thought 46233 will continue on the CF line and slow / stop for Colton with 60163 moving over at CF to the Leeds line and therefore passing near the Jnc. If they both run to time that is... I can see Colton being very busy this Saturday....
     
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    After leaving the BH water stop it looked in serious trouble. Regulator off and coasting to a stop on open track. Got away extremely slowly and gingerly. Did it get very far?
     
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    It passed us at Colton, and looked / sounded fine...
     
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