If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

West Somerset Railway Operations

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by gwr4090, Nov 15, 2007.

  1. brennan

    brennan New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 11, 2016
    Messages:
    62
    Likes Received:
    49
    Location:
    Gloucester
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The statement reports that more directors are to be recruited but only to specific responsibilities. I assume that directorships are unpaid therefore I wonder who would want to put themselves in such a very exposed position ie finance, operations, p way and infrastructure, given the known problems?
     
    Paul Kibbey likes this.
  2. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    5,100
    Likes Received:
    3,285
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Still no sign of the 'Williton shuttle' with the 37 in Saturdays timetable
     
  3. 35B

    35B Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,826
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    If they're worried about that, then they shouldn't be considering the role. A board of directors has shared accountability for what happens in that company, and if someone is reluctant to sign up because they are "exposed" by having clear responsibilities, then that's a sign that they aren't fit for the role.

    Making the roles within the board clearly defined seems only sensible as a way of achieving a focus.
     
    Paul Kibbey likes this.
  4. simon

    simon Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jun 26, 2006
    Messages:
    9,853
    Likes Received:
    3,563
    Depends how bad things are. I would be happy to take such responsibilities in a well run organisation, but not if I think it is not well run or is in deep financial difficulties with little chance of recovery. Generic comment, i do not know the real situation at the WSR.
     
  5. 35B

    35B Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,826
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That should go without saying, and in either of your two negative cases, the absence of clear responsibilities would be an indication of problems.
     
  6. thequantocks

    thequantocks New Member

    Joined:
    Sep 24, 2007
    Messages:
    406
    Likes Received:
    181
    Occupation:
    retired
    Location:
    Plymouth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I have seen the notice and it says "removed" not resigned
     
  7. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    5,100
    Likes Received:
    3,285
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Reading the release it explained why, ie that being a board member didnt sit well with his responsibilities to implement the boards plans
     
  8. AnthonyTrains2017

    AnthonyTrains2017 Member

    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2014
    Messages:
    2,164
    Likes Received:
    855
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  9. KA-2B

    KA-2B New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2014
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    45
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    34004
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Should appear in the weekly operating notice out on Wednesday. Won't be in the public timetable.
     
    Yorkshireman and Paul42 like this.
  10. Springs Branch

    Springs Branch New Member

    Joined:
    Mar 6, 2016
    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    114
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired
    Location:
    8F
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Responsibilities, or being instructed to implement by the board (or else?)
     
  11. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Apr 6, 2015
    Messages:
    5,100
    Likes Received:
    3,285
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Location:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Why not?
     
  12. Miff

    Miff Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2008
    Messages:
    2,080
    Likes Received:
    1,507
    The press release is quite clear which.
     
  13. Another Yorkshireman

    Another Yorkshireman Member Friend

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2014
    Messages:
    259
    Likes Received:
    473
    Gender:
    Male
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I would imagine it allows the service to be withdrawn [if necessary] without risking negative feedback from the general travelling public.
     
    Paul Kibbey likes this.
  14. KA-2B

    KA-2B New Member

    Joined:
    Oct 9, 2014
    Messages:
    66
    Likes Received:
    45
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Engineer
    Location:
    34004
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Mainly because the timetables were published before the diesel running days were agreed. The Williton shuttles only run when a diesel loco is rostered but not when it is the DMU. We'll try and get it right next year!
     
  15. Barrie the Beer

    Barrie the Beer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 22, 2008
    Messages:
    697
    Likes Received:
    1,806
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Brewery taproom supervisor
    Location:
    Norton Fitzwarren
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Legally it's recorded as a resignation. Companies House displays the date of resignation. I guess he was told to resign. I don't think someone else can resign on behalf of a director.
     
  16. jma1009

    jma1009 Member

    Joined:
    Mar 16, 2013
    Messages:
    901
    Likes Received:
    667
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    ynysddu south wales
    Am I alone in thinking that JJP now has complete control of the now much smaller WSR PLC board and any new appointments to it?

    Seems to me to be shades of Sir Gerald Nabarro, and the SVR in the early 1970s? (With all the usual disclaimers).

    The completely stupid set up of the WSRA -v- the WSR PLC has allowed this to occur, and not implementing the Coombes Report has led to all this, and those who backed the Coombes report just to get rid of the old WSRA trustees, and failed to implement the Coombes Report in full, must wonder with some aghast this week how things are quickly developing.

    It seems to me JJP now controls the WSR PLC without any input, personally, from him, of the funding required to justify this ascendancy and dominance, and also without any legitimacy.

    Cheers,

    Julian
     
  17. tracker

    tracker Member

    Joined:
    Aug 3, 2014
    Messages:
    432
    Likes Received:
    798
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired IT manager
    Location:
    Essex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    In 2004, Nethergate Old Growler won GOLD in the Stout and Porter Class in CAMRA's Champion Winter Beer of Britain competition.
    Robin L.
     
    Barrie the Beer likes this.
  18. flying scotsman123

    flying scotsman123 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Sep 9, 2013
    Messages:
    6,810
    Likes Received:
    8,084
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Cheltenham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    It strikes me that JJP has certainly taken a firm grasp since arriving on the WSR. But that's not necessarily a bad thing. The WSR needs taking a firm grip of, of that I'm sure few will disagree (unless you're from the people's republic of course...). Whether he's taking a firm grip in the right way or not remains to be seen, but it really is too early for comparisons to Sir Gerald. Interviewing candidates for the board for specific areas of responsibility before appointing them seems much more sensible than waiting for an AGM, hoping some names appear on a ballot and seeing who wins, then divvying up jobs. Shareholders only get a short statement from potential board members, an interview with a proper CV followed by appointment by someone who knows what they're doing is far preferable.
     
  19. nick813

    nick813 Well-Known Member Loco Owner

    Joined:
    Jan 28, 2010
    Messages:
    1,289
    Likes Received:
    1,058
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    poole dorset
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I guess I am from The People's Republic....... Thus I disagree.
    Have you looked at who is on the Board? What or who are a Forty Fifty Partnership?.......
    Lots of unanswered questions.
    Who provided the £200k loan?
    Why open a meeting with the words. ' I want to be open and honest' .......that implies that that person is not usually open nor honest.
    The locomotive sold without any proper explanation.
    Where is the actual prof that the railway was going to go in to administration.
    Where is the ORR. Report that the meeting was promised.
    There are a few.
    There is remarkably little info on the web about the chairman or was my keyboard slip correct.


    As an individual.

    Nick
     
  20. 35B

    35B Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    10,826
    Likes Received:
    7,136
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The X6 regime stank, and they needed getting rid of.

    If fears about JJP are justified - and the accretion of power in his hands does make me uncomfortable - then the root cause lies far before the WSRA vs plc battles in a structural set up that both allowed for that accretion of power and denied supporters much effective control.

    However, the Nabarro comparison seems to me wholly overblown nonsense on stilts. The circumstantial evidence suggests a genuine care for railways in general and the WSR in particular, and from afar I see the far greater risk as being over centralisation and reliance on one individual.


    Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
     

Share This Page