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Flying Scotsman

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 73129, Aug 24, 2010.

  1. 99Z

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    There's always a spare set of wheels standing right next to it :), should the need arise
     
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    I doubt very much if there was any intention on either part of contradiction, sounds like ( unusually ) the lady was wrong ;)...
     
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    They are definitely slacking there, no mention of how much the overhaul cost, Mr Wilcock must not have been involved in drafting this piece
     
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    "Passenger carrying test run"! Love the wording so not to accept that LAST Saturday was her first fare paying job LOL!
     
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    There's a thread for that discussion here :)

    Please feel free to put forward your views. I believe that Thompson did make a very good engine in the A1/1 actually, but I would also concede that there are lots of factors and other parts to that which makes an exact answer a little more complicated.
     
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    I was being a bit errr mischievous shall we say...
     
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    Hi i see in the the video the steam chest gauge is nice and steady and the aluminum box still there in front of fire hole door nice one and good luck with the work you have to do, but don't burn the midnight oil like kennington i have to laugh. FISH7373 81C NFP
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    I like this above :Happy:, my opinion shouldn't gone over shap on a test run. FISH7373 81C NFP
     
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    I stand to be corrected but if it ran hot on the passenger run there's no way they would have let it run back to York without numerous stops to check out the bearing.
     
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    See #4782
     
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    Great Northern was afaik considered a joke by running staff after the Thompson rebuild, dont think any of his pacifics were considered "good".
     
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    Just an update:

    I was very humbled to receive an invitation from the National Railway Museum today to see Flying Scotsman in their yard on the 25th February. Catherine Farrell, having seen my letter, has organised this and Helen May has signed it off.

    Please refer to the Thompson topic. Though you are entirely misinformed I am afraid. It is very much a popular opinion to denigrate Thompson and his locomotives without looking at all sides of the story, and without any balance. It no longer washes with me; I have no patience for those who will not research to better inform themselves.
     
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    Yes indeed - look what you've started! :)
     
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    It could really only be the late crest, with the exception of Humorist they didn't start fitting double chimneys until 1958 and German smoke deflectors from 1960/1. The latter was to combat drifting exhaust obstructing the drivers vision but does anyone know why this was not considered a problem on the Waverley Route? The three A3s allocated to Carlisle Canal never received deflectors.
     
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    Given the nature of the Waverley Route it would not offer the opportunity for the short cut-off running found on the ECML, in general terms you were either working hard or controlling the train on the down grades. It is possible that deflectors were neither seen nor found to be necessary, the Canal based engines were generally allocated to that one shed for a substantial part of their working lives, (Flamingo was there for 33 years) so bearing in mind the route and the small, dedicated allocation, the deflectors were an avoidable expense. Deflectors also partially obscure the view of the road ahead and unlike drifting exhaust you have their presence 100% of the time but they are not going to totally mask the view. If the phenomenon of exhaust obscuring signals was not an issue on the Waverley there was no point it fitting the deflectors.
     
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    Did the Canal A3s receive double chimneys? AFAIK drifting exhaust only became a problem when the double chimney/Kylchap was fitted. The single chimney locomotives managed just fine without the deflectors.
     
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    Yes they did.
     
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    Thanks, John. That's very interesting to know :)
     
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    I guess Scotsman can only run with a double chimney if she has the 'elephant ears' (as we used to call them back in the day) to stop the smoke/exhaust drift along the boiler.
    Personally, I love A3's in this guise, but understand those who prefer her in apple green with a single chimney.
     

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