If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion

Discussion in 'Heritage Railways & Centres in the UK' started by The Black Hat, Feb 13, 2011.

  1. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2011
    Messages:
    29,405
    Likes Received:
    29,945
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    It might. But the questions are being asked rather than treated as unaskable.
     
  2. 21B

    21B Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    4,140
    Likes Received:
    9,324
    The point of designing a survey is to do so in a way that helps people to answer the questions well without having to interpret what is being asked.

    I won’t be answering at all. I am not the target audience. I just have some experience in designing surveys.
     
  3. Gladiator 5076

    Gladiator 5076 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Oct 2, 2015
    Messages:
    8,290
    Likes Received:
    6,951
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Swanage
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    And my wife calls me a cynic, blimey you beat me hands down.
     
    Brunswick Green 2 likes this.
  4. 60044

    60044 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1,276
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    A survey of what people are thinking isn't worth doing, nor will be useful, unless it reveals the truth, and all I'm suggesting is that respondents provide genuine answers.
     
  5. Jamessquared

    Jamessquared Nat Pres stalwart

    Joined:
    Mar 8, 2008
    Messages:
    28,123
    Likes Received:
    65,958
    Location:
    LBSC 215
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The survey only gives a single line entry for free-text responses, which is either poor interface design (you can write more, but it isn't made obvious) or poor survey design (responses are very limited). Hopefully it is just poor interface design and longer responses are welcome.

    Some of the questions are a bit motherhood and apple pie - I don't suppose many people are going to argue that being a robust organisation is built on the twin pillars of safety and finances - but it is nonetheless interesting that certain shibboleths are raised, for example Whitby operations and a predominance of Mark 1 carriages.

    It would be interesting to read the accompanying document that sets out the details, but I appreciate that as a disinterested bystander, I have no inherent right to see that document.

    The key thing now I guess is that, for those members who have agitated that things are going awry, they engage (in a measured way) to set out teh direction they believe the railway should take.

    Tom
     
    jnc and 35B like this.
  6. 21B

    21B Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Sep 2, 2009
    Messages:
    4,140
    Likes Received:
    9,324
    Poor survey design. The platform has all the necessary features. The issue now is that the poor design will make it difficult for many to engage in the responses well and/or those analysing them are about to discover they’ve created themselves a very difficult task, as many will likely use the free text boxes to give answers im a manner that will make the collation and grouping of answers a real challenge.
     
    Steve and jnc like this.
  7. oldmrheath

    oldmrheath Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,352
    Likes Received:
    2,575
    We use SureyMonkey at work for site feedback ,and the template used here is the same (ie short text field boxes for the questions with an open question field at the end).



    Jon
     
  8. Andy2857

    Andy2857 Member

    Joined:
    Dec 9, 2011
    Messages:
    634
    Likes Received:
    300
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Wolverhampton/Sheffield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    The latest update from Southern locomotives limited informs that 34072 is visiting the NYMR for the steam gala in September.
     
    D1035, Johnme101 and cksteam like this.
  9. 47406

    47406 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 24, 2006
    Messages:
    1,318
    Likes Received:
    158
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Operations Manager
    Location:
    County Durham
  10. Sulzerman

    Sulzerman New Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2025
    Messages:
    90
    Likes Received:
    82
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Malton
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Hosepipe ban from Friday in Yorkshire
     
  11. oldmrheath

    oldmrheath Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 18, 2006
    Messages:
    2,352
    Likes Received:
    2,575
    I wonder how the 'Green Knight' appeal is going. I would have thought Vera would attract more widespread interest amongst the general public, plus it gets another oil burner available sooner.

    Jon
     
  12. alexl102

    alexl102 Member Friend

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    682
    Likes Received:
    543
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    I much prefer a Standard 4 4-6-0 to a 2-6-0 but I'm still confused as to why 75029 is considered a perfect loco for the NYMR but 76079 isn't!

    Incidentally, has it been sold yet?
     
  13. 60044

    60044 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1,276
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I think the answer to your question is "nobody (outside the management) knows" - and those who don't know aren't giving any reasoning. For my own part I 'd prefer to see 76079 rebuilt rather than the 4-6-0. And in answer to the earlier question of how well the 75029 appeal is going, according to the latest Moors Line, the answer is £11,000 so far, so not too well.
     
  14. alexl102

    alexl102 Member Friend

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    682
    Likes Received:
    543
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The one time I had 76079 out of Whitby it really struggled climbing the hill to Grosmont, but it was autumn I think so that could have been a factor.
     
  15. torgormaig

    torgormaig Part of the furniture Friend

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    5,013
    Likes Received:
    7,840
    I think the answer is that work on overhauling 75029 has already started, but now stalled while 76079 is still complete and possibly an easier sell. I agree with @60044 that I would also see the latter retained, but the future looks pretty bleak for both on them.

    Peter
     
    Steve and jnc like this.
  16. garth manor

    garth manor Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Apr 10, 2009
    Messages:
    1,925
    Likes Received:
    537
    CEO says £11k, but the head of engagement claims £15,624 on the GK page, not that either amount will go far, pity that the only standard 4 to main line in preservation lies forgotten.
     
  17. alexl102

    alexl102 Member Friend

    Joined:
    Mar 1, 2019
    Messages:
    682
    Likes Received:
    543
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Leeds
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Forgive me for pedantry, do you mean the only 75xxx standard 4? I'm sure 76079 has been on the mainline as have a few of the tanks!
     
  18. Kingscross

    Kingscross Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2009
    Messages:
    921
    Likes Received:
    635
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    South West
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    75069 and 75014 have had main line careers in preservation. Of the 2-6-0s, 76084, also ventured out onto main line metals during its last ticket.
     
    MarkinDurham likes this.
  19. 60044

    60044 Member

    Joined:
    Feb 24, 2016
    Messages:
    883
    Likes Received:
    1,276
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Salisbury
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    ....and so did 80135 (although no further than Middlesboro, I think).
     
  20. JBTEvans

    JBTEvans Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Feb 14, 2008
    Messages:
    2,641
    Likes Received:
    840
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    Casnewydd, De Cymru
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Not likely to run beyond Whitby ever again though if it remains in NYMR ownership. Ownership with somebody else may see it return to the mainline proper.
     

Share This Page