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Steve liked 60044's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Look at it another way. If a loco is brought in for a gala and doesn't cover the cost of bringing, should it have been brought in the first place? Any additional use needs to be pure "surplus" (because we don't use the "....." word as a...
Oct 8, 2026 at 3:45 PM -
Steve liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I think it was Britannia, but I might be wrong. It's worth doing some maths though. Let's say your loco owner wants to charge £2500 per day for the loco, which doesn't seem outrageous for a star engine. You've had to transport it, which is two...
Oct 8, 2026 at 12:27 PM -
Steve replied to the thread Kent & East Sussex Railway.
My guess would be slightly more. 5.35 tons water, 2.5 tons coal, about 2.25 tons for the tank and 0.8 tons for the bunker/ cab back = 10.9 tons. Has it ever been weighed?
Oct 7, 2026 at 11:14 PM -
Steve replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
The NYMR does do pay and play, generally using No29. It would be on an individual basis but I suspect that some of the premier division loco owners would baulk at the idea. These locos also command a premium hire fee. Add to this the operating...
Oct 7, 2026 at 10:51 PM -
Steve liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Well, quite! Though being a southerner, I'd pronounce the "H" ;) It comes back to value. I'm in the somewhat fortunate position that I can afford £100 for a family day out. But it had better be bloody good value for that figure. If we go on...
Oct 7, 2026 at 10:39 PM -
Steve replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I can just imagine you standing at Pickering booking office, Tom, and when being asked to pay, uttering those immortal words. 'Ow much!
Oct 7, 2026 at 8:37 PM -
Steve liked Jamessquared's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I think it is the staggering change at the NYMR that is most noticeable. On the Bluebell, since Covid we have hovered around the 30,000 miles per year mark, of which steam is about 80-90%. There have been little fluctuations, but not too far from...
Oct 7, 2026 at 8:35 PM -
Steve replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
There are lots of ideas being banded around on here, which is great. With regard to (1) above, there are definitely people interested in history and heritage but, even if charging a tenner/person, I don't think it will make much in a day. Let's...
Oct 7, 2026 at 8:28 PM -
Steve replied to the thread Kent & East Sussex Railway.
All those points will contribute to making a Jinty a better ride than an Austerity. The wheel dia is greater on a Jinty, too, at 4'-7". At 360 RPM (which was a standard design maximum speed for stationary steam engines back in the day) that...
Oct 7, 2026 at 7:43 PM -
Steve liked Sawdust's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
An acknowledgement that trust is shot to pieces and needs to be rebuilt and a little patience is needed. Sawdust.
Oct 5, 2026 at 9:51 PM -
Steve liked 60044's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
I've just spoken with Sawdust, and from what he has told me I agree that there is hope - but I think the discussion was an off-the-record one and needs to be kept confidential at this time. I think we'd all agree that it is likely to take some...
Oct 5, 2026 at 9:50 PM -
Steve liked cksteam's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
At risk of going over old ground the Whitby rover became the main ticket because of Gift Aid. To enable Gift Aid the ticket had to cover the full line offering, regardless of ownership (this has been argued many pages ago but essentially HMRC...
Oct 5, 2026 at 5:50 PM -
Steve liked 5944's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
WHR is £76.32 booked in advance for a return from Caernarfon to Porthmadog, so it's not surprising passenger numbers are low. However, annual membership can be had for £45 per person and allows 10 free trips each year, or half fare on FfR. From...
Oct 5, 2026 at 5:43 PM -
Steve liked 35B's post in the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Given the use by @Steve of "'ow much!" in his posts, I think that's quite an optimistic interpretation of the views of fares - my own are that the WHR is pushing into obscene territory. This is where understanding visitor numbers is so important...
Oct 5, 2026 at 5:39 PM -
Steve replied to the thread North Yorkshire Moors Railway General Discussion.
Hammer, nail and head seem to be appropriate words for this. As I've said, it is perceived value for money and the perception by many is that the NYMR is overpriced. And that's true of non-Yorkshiremen, as well.
Oct 5, 2026 at 5:37 PM
