1442

One loco you never hear anything of.....im surprised noone has suggested getting it back in steam...or maybe they have?

 

I remember going to the museum at Tiverton on the way to the West Country a few years ago to see it but the museum was closed for refurbishment #-o

From what I have read over the years/been told, the loco is subject to a 'covenant' which prevents it ever leaving Tiverton. Not saying this is unbreakable but it's going to be a big job to persuade the custodians to let it go.

Aslo I have heard that the loco's 'internals' have been removed? so as to prevent or make more difficult a return to steam

This is just what I've heard in the past, others may have more up to date knowledge?

 

?! The mind boggles!

 

Just my tuppence - why does everything have to steam?

Leave it there for the good folk of Tiverton to cab and enjoy - for many, it'll be the closest they can get to a steam loco and it has real local meaning and affection attched to it. There are three other 14XX's out there to run.

I'll get my coat...

 

Well said sir. You won't win many friends on here saying that, but some people see the value of not steaming everything and leaving it for future generations to enjoy.

 

I agree as well, there are a few of us out there who do not beleive that every thing has to run all the time, or that we should make changes because it makes our life easier. Some of the, engines such as 1442 should remain as they are for now.

 

Thanks both, I suspect I don't have many friends on here anyway - I work for the NRM! :-#

 

Please remember folks that the joy of resurecting an engine is joy for it,s own sake.
As many will tell you there are few moments in your life that you recall as well as the first time an engine blows off or moves itself. We should leave some engines for future generations to experience the joy of having achieved what seemed impossible.

The Melter

 

What makes 1442 special, is that apart from the paint, it's basically in the same condition as it was when it last ran in everyday service on BR. It's not had the Swindon 'exhibition bulls--t' treatment like Lode Star etc, so it's a very useful reference as to how things actually were... which was quite rough, apparently!

 

Thanks again, as you'll know, in another world I'm about a month or so off that first steam for 50 years! It will be special indeed...

 

If true can you call it a preserved loco as opposed to a shell ?, not interested in the steam it or nor arguement (Auto tanks are limited use in preservation) but it defeats the object of preserving something if you rip the insides out.

 

Ok, wrong phrase! but that is what I have heard/read in the past...be interested if anybody can confirm.

 

I think that's a myth, and maybe confused with pannier 9629 which lost its boiler when it went on static display at the Holiday Inn in Cardiff many years ago (loco now being restored at Blaenavon). Certainly all of 1442 was there when I last saw it in the mid 90s.

 

I recall a feature on all the surviving 14xx locos in Steam Railway around 10 yrs ago. This included an interview with one of 1442's trustees who made a statement that the loco needed 'internal restoration' which the author of the article found 'puzzling'. I remember it struck a chord with me as I recall someone telling me a few years before that the loco had been butchered internally.

Can't offer any other evidence, like I said I didn't get to see it when I went there.

 

Wouldn't be surprised if at some point they'd taken the lagging off, maybe even had the tubes out. I think it may have released a couple of cab fittings to another engine at some point, lubricator springs to mind, although I can't remember seeing anything missing when I went down there.

I can't see what else you'd want to do. Sounds to me like someone without the necessary know-how has got the wrong end of the stick somewhere.

 

I'm getting curious, will have to pop in there and take a look. It was one of the last withdrawn so I see no reason why BR would have removed, for instance, the tubes for examination with a view to boiler repairs or anything like that.

 

Well yes it could be one of those urban myths, think that Steam Railway article gave a bit more information about the loco's condition at the time, but my copy is long gone.

 

anyone got any?

 

http://www.tivertonmuseum.org.uk/tivvy_ ... cts_5.html

I DO hate those smileys!

 

now im disappointed.SOmeone told us it was in final service condition and now i see its in GWR livery.However it looks like a decent display doesnt it. I think I prefer the pic of a 14xx at Reading someone posted in more or less ex works BR lined-green though.