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Flying Scotsman in Devon and Cornwall with Steam Dreams

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  1. AnthonyTrains2017

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    Cancelled my booking from Taunton.
     
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    I think what some are missing is the dynamic of the trip . This isn't an out and back tour , but one broken down into multiple segments with opportunity for those in devon and Cornwall to join the train at a convenient point and time and return . Differential marketing and trips in theory adding a bigger cash flow

    yes likely to alienate the die hards but as a business model watch it catch on
     
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    60mph max given on RTT. I wonder if Ian Riley is sneaking in 44871 to take the place of 60103 and steal some of the fame? No one will notice.....[​IMG]

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  7. Big Al

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    I will be proved wrong no doubt but why would anyone waste a £100 on what is effectively a positioning move at the crack of dawn to a destination that offers nothing and on the steam leg involves you hanging around on two pathing stops of over half an hour in total?
     
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    but it is riding behind #worldfamousflyingscotsman
     
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  9. 26D_M

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    The one downside of the 75mph B1 not being available. Only 2 inches taller in the wheel but makes a significant difference on certain stretches.
     
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    Those times could be kept by 48151
     
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    Timings from 4th - 8th October, 2018. <BJ>

    1Z44 06:40 Theale to Taunton. Thursday, 4th October.
    60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54509/2018/10/04/advanced

    1Z47 16:55 Taunton to Plymouth. Thursday, 4th October.
    60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54511/2018/10/04/advanced
    The passengers will have time to stretch their legs at Plymouth, if in the 16 mins they can walk fast.

    1Z72 09:00 Plymouth to Penzance. Saturday, 6th October.
    60103 'Flying Scotsman' .
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54527/2018/10/06/advanced

    1Z44 09:00 Plymouth to Exeter St Davids. Monday, 8th October.
    60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54522/2018/10/08/advanced *

    1Z72 15:09 Exeter St Davids to Bristol Temple Meads. Monday, 8th October.
    60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54526/2018/10/08/advanced *

    * Note the light engine movement 0Z37 13:31 Plymouth to Bristol East Depot.
    http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54582/2018/10/08/advanced
     
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  12. Big Al

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    Interesting that FS is going solo to Penzance from Plymouth after doubleheading with the Black 5 over the Devon Banks. There are one of two hills west of the Tamar, you know.
     
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    Further timings for the first day thanks to SW-SWRG. <BJ>

    Thursday, 04/10/18 - Worked out from various paths.

    60103 + 44871 Top N Train WCRC Diesel A.
    5Z44
    STHALLOCO 05:00
    SOUTHALL 05:10 05:21
    READNG 05:59 06:01
    THEALE 06:16

    60103 + 44871 Top N Train WCRC Diesel A
    1Z44
    THEALE 06:40
    NEWBURYRC PASS 06:59
    NEWBY2867 07:02 07:24
    NEWBURY 07:27 07:30
    BEDWYN PASS 07:47
    HEYWDRDJN PASS 08:18
    FAIRWD JN PASS 08:35
    CLINKRDJN PASS 08:40
    FROME 08:43 09:13
    BLTCHBGJN PASS 09:16
    CASTLCARY PASS 09:30
    TAUNTON 10:21

    60103 + 44871 + Support Coach
    5Z45
    TAUNTON 10:35
    NORTNFZWJ PASS 10:39
    B LYDEARD 10:50

    WCRC Diesel A
    1Z45
    TAUNTON 10:38
    FROME 11:37 12:02
    NEWBURY 13:10 13:20
    THEALE 13:40

    WCRC Diesel B
    0Z37
    STHALLOCO 11:13
    SOUTHALL 11:23 11:34
    READNG 12:12 12:28
    CHALLOW 12:57 13:17
    BATH SPA PASS 14:18
    BRISTOLTM 14:39 14:49
    TAUNTON PASS 15:28
    EXETSTDAV 15:55 16:03
    DAWLISHWN PASS 16:19
    PLYMOUTH 17:15

    WCRC Diesel A.
    5Z47
    THEALE 14:10
    WOODBORO 15:00 15:08
    TAUNTON 16:19 16:21
    TAUNTONYD 16:24 16:44
    TAUNTON 16:48

    60103 + 44871 + Support Coach.
    5Z46
    B LYDEARD 15:34
    NORTNFZWJ PASS 15:45
    TAUNTONYD 15:48

    WCRC Diesel A
    0Z48
    TAUNTONYD 16:35
    EXETSTDAV PASS 17:03
    DAWLISHWN PASS 17:17
    PLYMOUTH 18:11 19:15
    PLYMTH120 19:17 19:20
    PLYMOUTH 19:22

    60103 + 44871
    1Z47
    TAUNTON 16:55
    WHITEBALL PASS 17:08
    TIVERTNLP 17:15 17:35
    EXETSTDAV PASS 17:56
    DAWLISHWN PASS 18:13
    DAWLISH PASS 18:17
    TEIGNMTH PASS 18:21
    NEWTONABT PASS 18:30
    TOTNES PASS 18:42
    IVYBRIDGE PASS 18:58
    HEMERDON PASS 19:02
    PLYMOUTH 19:13

    WCRC Diesel B + 60103 + 44871 + Support Coach
    5Z48
    PLYMOUTH 19:18
    PLYMTH131 19:20 19:25
    PLYMOUTH 19:27 19:50
    LIPSON JN PASS 19:53
    LAIRA JN 19:55 20:00
    LAIRA TMD 20:10

    WCRC Diesel A
    1Z48
    PLYMOUTH 19:29
    DAWLISHWN PASS 20:17
    EXETSTDAV PASS 20:34
    TAUNTON 21:03

    WCRC Diesel A
    5Z49
    TAUNTON 21:32
    WESTON SM 22:03 22:35
    TAUNTON PASS 23:17
    EXETSTDAV PASS 23:49
    DAWLISHWN PASS 23:58
    NEWTONABT 00:08 00:20
    HACKNEYYD 00:25
     
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    So does that mean on the first THE > TAU leg we have 60103 & 44871 TnT with a diesel on the back?
     
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    Can I ask where 44871 is currently
     
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    Well, the diesel does have to get to Taunton somehow to bring the train back and the train is only booked in Taunton (P2) for under 20 minutes......
     
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    Glad Free2Grice has worked it all out. I was getting a bit confused looking at RTT for Thursday. Once you see it in terms of Diesel A and Diesel B it makes a lot more sense!

    I didn't realise 44871 was double-heading the Theale to Taunton leg - that explains why it is going to Southall tomorrow and not the West Somerset.
     
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    I assumed it was double heading, but I misread the info thinking it was steam TnT

    I now see its 60103 + 44871 TnT with Diesel A
     
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    Thought the black 5 came on at Taunton? So it’s double headed steam with diesel on rear?
     
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    Looks like it is - for the Theale to Taunton bit, but not for the Taunton to Plymouth leg where the diesel goes light engine.
     
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