Flying Scotsman in Devon and Cornwall with Steam Dreams

AnthonyTrains2017 · 25 Juli 2018

Cancelled my booking from Taunton.

Sidmouth · 25 Juli 2018

I think what some are missing is the dynamic of the trip . This isn't an out and back tour , but one broken down into multiple segments with opportunity for those in devon and Cornwall to join the train at a convenient point and time and return . Differential marketing and trips in theory adding a bigger cash flow

yes likely to alienate the die hards but as a business model watch it catch on

Hemerdon · 19 September 2018

Looks like Mayflower isn’t going to make the trip to Devon and Cornwall, which is a shame, but is going to be replaced by 44871. Interesting headline in the local paper!
https://www.plymouthherald.co.uk/whats-on/harry-potter-train-joins-flying-2021066

Michellis · 28 September 2018

First leg from Theale
One for the early birds:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54509/2018/10/04/advanced

gricerdon · 29 September 2018

Zitat von Michellis: ↑

First leg from Theale
One for the early birds:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54509/2018/10/04/advanced
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We'll that could hardly be any slower.

green five · 29 September 2018

Zitat von gricerdon: ↑

We'll that could hardly be any slower.
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60mph max given on RTT. I wonder if Ian Riley is sneaking in 44871 to take the place of 60103 and steal some of the fame? No one will notice.....

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Big Al · 29 September 2018

Zitat von Michellis: ↑

First leg from Theale
One for the early birds:

http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54509/2018/10/04/advanced
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I will be proved wrong no doubt but why would anyone waste a £100 on what is effectively a positioning move at the crack of dawn to a destination that offers nothing and on the steam leg involves you hanging around on two pathing stops of over half an hour in total?

26D_M · 29 September 2018

Zitat von Big Al: ↑

I will be proved wrong no doubt but why would anyone waste a £100 on what is effectively a positioning move at the crack of dawn to a destination that offers nothing and on the steam leg involves you hanging around on two pathing stops of over half an hour in total?
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but it is riding behind #worldfamousflyingscotsman

26D_M · 29 September 2018

Zitat von green five: ↑

60mph max given on RTT. I wonder if Ian Riley is sneaking in 44871 to take the place of 60103 and steal some of the fame? No one will notice.....

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The one downside of the 75mph B1 not being available. Only 2 inches taller in the wheel but makes a significant difference on certain stretches.

gricerdon · 29 September 2018

Zitat von green five: ↑

60mph max given on RTT. I wonder if Ian Riley is sneaking in 44871 to take the place of 60103 and steal some of the fame? No one will notice.....

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Those times could be kept by 48151

free2grice · 1 Oktober 2018

Timings from 4th - 8th October, 2018. <BJ>

1Z44 06:40 Theale to Taunton. Thursday, 4th October.
60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54509/2018/10/04/advanced

1Z47 16:55 Taunton to Plymouth. Thursday, 4th October.
60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54511/2018/10/04/advanced
The passengers will have time to stretch their legs at Plymouth, if in the 16 mins they can walk fast.

1Z72 09:00 Plymouth to Penzance. Saturday, 6th October.
60103 'Flying Scotsman' .
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54527/2018/10/06/advanced

1Z44 09:00 Plymouth to Exeter St Davids. Monday, 8th October.
60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54522/2018/10/08/advanced *

1Z72 15:09 Exeter St Davids to Bristol Temple Meads. Monday, 8th October.
60103 'Flying Scotsman' + 44871.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54526/2018/10/08/advanced *

* Note the light engine movement 0Z37 13:31 Plymouth to Bristol East Depot.
http://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/train/U54582/2018/10/08/advanced

Big Al · 1 Oktober 2018

Interesting that FS is going solo to Penzance from Plymouth after doubleheading with the Black 5 over the Devon Banks. There are one of two hills west of the Tamar, you know.

free2grice · 2 Oktober 2018

Further timings for the first day thanks to SW-SWRG. <BJ>

Thursday, 04/10/18 - Worked out from various paths.

60103 + 44871 Top N Train WCRC Diesel A.
5Z44
STHALLOCO 05:00
SOUTHALL 05:10 05:21
READNG 05:59 06:01
THEALE 06:16

60103 + 44871 Top N Train WCRC Diesel A
1Z44
THEALE 06:40
NEWBURYRC PASS 06:59
NEWBY2867 07:02 07:24
NEWBURY 07:27 07:30
BEDWYN PASS 07:47
HEYWDRDJN PASS 08:18
FAIRWD JN PASS 08:35
CLINKRDJN PASS 08:40
FROME 08:43 09:13
BLTCHBGJN PASS 09:16
CASTLCARY PASS 09:30
TAUNTON 10:21

60103 + 44871 + Support Coach
5Z45
TAUNTON 10:35
NORTNFZWJ PASS 10:39
B LYDEARD 10:50

WCRC Diesel A
1Z45
TAUNTON 10:38
FROME 11:37 12:02
NEWBURY 13:10 13:20
THEALE 13:40

WCRC Diesel B
0Z37
STHALLOCO 11:13
SOUTHALL 11:23 11:34
READNG 12:12 12:28
CHALLOW 12:57 13:17
BATH SPA PASS 14:18
BRISTOLTM 14:39 14:49
TAUNTON PASS 15:28
EXETSTDAV 15:55 16:03
DAWLISHWN PASS 16:19
PLYMOUTH 17:15

WCRC Diesel A.
5Z47
THEALE 14:10
WOODBORO 15:00 15:08
TAUNTON 16:19 16:21
TAUNTONYD 16:24 16:44
TAUNTON 16:48

60103 + 44871 + Support Coach.
5Z46
B LYDEARD 15:34
NORTNFZWJ PASS 15:45
TAUNTONYD 15:48

WCRC Diesel A
0Z48
TAUNTONYD 16:35
EXETSTDAV PASS 17:03
DAWLISHWN PASS 17:17
PLYMOUTH 18:11 19:15
PLYMTH120 19:17 19:20
PLYMOUTH 19:22

60103 + 44871
1Z47
TAUNTON 16:55
WHITEBALL PASS 17:08
TIVERTNLP 17:15 17:35
EXETSTDAV PASS 17:56
DAWLISHWN PASS 18:13
DAWLISH PASS 18:17
TEIGNMTH PASS 18:21
NEWTONABT PASS 18:30
TOTNES PASS 18:42
IVYBRIDGE PASS 18:58
HEMERDON PASS 19:02
PLYMOUTH 19:13

WCRC Diesel B + 60103 + 44871 + Support Coach
5Z48
PLYMOUTH 19:18
PLYMTH131 19:20 19:25
PLYMOUTH 19:27 19:50
LIPSON JN PASS 19:53
LAIRA JN 19:55 20:00
LAIRA TMD 20:10

WCRC Diesel A
1Z48
PLYMOUTH 19:29
DAWLISHWN PASS 20:17
EXETSTDAV PASS 20:34
TAUNTON 21:03

WCRC Diesel A
5Z49
TAUNTON 21:32
WESTON SM 22:03 22:35
TAUNTON PASS 23:17
EXETSTDAV PASS 23:49
DAWLISHWN PASS 23:58
NEWTONABT 00:08 00:20
HACKNEYYD 00:25

mrKnowwun · 2 Oktober 2018

So does that mean on the first THE > TAU leg we have 60103 & 44871 TnT with a diesel on the back?

Steamie Boxes · 2 Oktober 2018

Can I ask where 44871 is currently

Big Al · 2 Oktober 2018

Zitat von mrKnowwun: ↑

So does that mean on the first THE > TAU leg we have 60103 & 44871 TnT with a diesel on the back?
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Well, the diesel does have to get to Taunton somehow to bring the train back and the train is only booked in Taunton (P2) for under 20 minutes......

6026 King John · 2 Oktober 2018

Glad Free2Grice has worked it all out. I was getting a bit confused looking at RTT for Thursday. Once you see it in terms of Diesel A and Diesel B it makes a lot more sense!

I didn't realise 44871 was double-heading the Theale to Taunton leg - that explains why it is going to Southall tomorrow and not the West Somerset.

mrKnowwun · 2 Oktober 2018

I assumed it was double heading, but I misread the info thinking it was steam TnT

I now see its 60103 + 44871 TnT with Diesel A

AnthonyTrains2017 · 2 Oktober 2018

Thought the black 5 came on at Taunton? So it’s double headed steam with diesel on rear?

6026 King John · 2 Oktober 2018

Zitat von AnthonyTrains2017: ↑

Thought the black 5 came on at Taunton? So it’s double headed steam with diesel on rear?
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Looks like it is - for the Theale to Taunton bit, but not for the Taunton to Plymouth leg where the diesel goes light engine.

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