If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

Lynton and Barnstaple - Operations and Development

Тема в разделе 'Narrow Gauge Railways', создана пользователем 50044 Exeter, 25 дек 2009.

  1. Red5

    Red5 New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    9 авг 2018
    Сообщения:
    48
    Симпатии:
    120
    Адрес:
    Lincoln
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Baldwin in Barnstaple?
     
  2. talyllyn1

    talyllyn1 Member

    Дата регистрации:
    27 дек 2008
    Сообщения:
    269
    Симпатии:
    412
    Breakfast in Blackmoor?
     
  3. johnofwessex

    johnofwessex Resident of Nat Pres

    Дата регистрации:
    6 апр 2015
    Сообщения:
    9.791
    Симпатии:
    7.936
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Thorn in my managers side
    Адрес:
    72
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Wasnt that a Supertramp Album?
     
  4. Robin Moira White

    Robin Moira White Resident of Nat Pres

    Дата регистрации:
    27 апр 2014
    Сообщения:
    11.411
    Симпатии:
    18.280
    Пол:
    Женский
    Род занятий:
    Barrister
    Адрес:
    Stogumber
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Born in Barnstaple.

    Local version of

    ‘Normal for Norfolk’

    Robin White SIS

    (Stationed in Stogumber)
     
  5. Greenway

    Greenway Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    16 мар 2008
    Сообщения:
    4.021
    Симпатии:
    3.808
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    South Hams
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  6. Axe +1

    Axe +1 New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    16 сен 2017
    Сообщения:
    194
    Симпатии:
    771
    Род занятий:
    Retired {Electronics Engineer}
    Адрес:
    Surrey
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I've already asked one of the L&BR board members. He has no idea.
     
  7. DragonHandler

    DragonHandler Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    27 май 2016
    Сообщения:
    1.286
    Симпатии:
    1.590
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    West London
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The meaning of many TLA's is a regular FAQ. :):D:D
     
    MellishR, Jamessquared и 35B нравится это.
  8. Mark Thompson

    Mark Thompson Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    10 сен 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.663
    Симпатии:
    4.121
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    E sussex
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Tried Bletchley Park on this, but they said as it wasn't part of a 5-letter sequence, they couldn't help. Besides, they were still working on todays decrypts from the WSR.
     
    Greenway, ilvaporista, Axe +1 и 4 другим нравится это.
  9. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    29 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    4.341
    Симпатии:
    5.850
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    N.Ireland
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    BIB means 'Bit in black' - a phrase I learnt on this very forum. Apologies for the confusion caused.

    Regarding the planning permission, my reference was to this objection from the current owners of the Old Station Inn at Blackmoor: http://planning.northdevon.gov.uk/l...6617/66617_REP_Footanstey_190528_Redacted.pdf

    In particular, the middle section on the first page and the 3rd paragraph on the second page.

    This would appear to be a very big stumbling block in the current extension plans.

    I hope I am wrong as I would love to see the railway extended.

    Keith
     
  10. goughball01

    goughball01 New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    3 сен 2012
    Сообщения:
    49
    Симпатии:
    69
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Last edited: 27 июн 2019
    Axe +1, Red5 и Old Kent Biker нравится это.
  11. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.036
    Симпатии:
    2.574
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
  12. Red5

    Red5 New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    9 авг 2018
    Сообщения:
    48
    Симпатии:
    120
    Адрес:
    Lincoln
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Read between the lines
     
  13. ross

    ross Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    18 май 2017
    Сообщения:
    1.036
    Симпатии:
    2.574
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Titfield
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    That would be an implication, not an inference, but even so, I can't see it. Certainly it states that some land owners are willing to negotiate with the L&B, but there is nothing to suggest that Mr & Mrs Shepherd are amongst them.
     
  14. Red5

    Red5 New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    9 авг 2018
    Сообщения:
    48
    Симпатии:
    120
    Адрес:
    Lincoln
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Maybe i have read the wording slightly differently. It has been written as a negotiation position, it has been mentioned earlier that there is nothing to suggest that progress could not be made.
     
    Old Kent Biker нравится это.
  15. Goldie

    Goldie New Member

    Дата регистрации:
    25 июл 2011
    Сообщения:
    87
    Симпатии:
    183
    That was their position before the grant of planning permission. It strengthened their objection to say that they would not sell to the Trust (because why would the Council grant planning permission for a development that Mr and Mrs Shepherd could - as the owners of the property - prevent?). Their position has worsened now that planning permission has been granted, and it will continue to worsen as the railway makes more progress; the points that they have made about the extension of the railway harming the market value of the business are probably valid. Of course whether they recgnise that and adjust their approach is another question, but it is difficult to see how they might prevent (rather than delay) the railway from being extended.
     
    Last edited: 28 июн 2019
  16. 30854

    30854 Resident of Nat Pres

    Дата регистрации:
    8 мар 2017
    Сообщения:
    12.172
    Симпатии:
    11.496
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Retired
    Адрес:
    Brighton&Hove
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Let's not forget that some, at least, will have questioned just how realistic the L&B's aims and objectives were/are. Flogging a cherished portion of real estate, when that wouldn't necessarily be 'option A', is going to be a damned sight more palatable if you've a fair amount of confidence that it'll at least be being used for 'the stated purpose' (i.e. isn't going to go belly-up and soon land reluctant vendor with a stonking great housing development on their doorstep).

    As momentum builds on Exmoor, that should progressively become less of an issue. Of course ..... you'll always get a smattering of 'over my dead body' types, whatever or wherever pretty much any project needing land is being undertaken.
     
  17. simon

    simon Resident of Nat Pres

    Дата регистрации:
    26 июн 2006
    Сообщения:
    11.907
    Симпатии:
    5.611
    Planning permission doesn't give the railway any stronger rights to acquire the property than lack of planning permission.
     
  18. 35B

    35B Nat Pres stalwart

    Дата регистрации:
    18 июн 2011
    Сообщения:
    29.201
    Симпатии:
    29.640
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    Grantham
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    Surely that also depends on what was offered to them, and how that compares with their reasonable expectations of what might have been offered. Given that all numbers are redacted, it's very hard to know, but I have a nasty feeling that the value of the land had risen, and that the railway had struggled to meet previous, let alone new, expectations. If so, then I would be concerned about the impact of this on the good will that would be needed to make progress - not to mention the implications for the railway's ability to fund raise.
     
  19. ghost

    ghost Part of the furniture

    Дата регистрации:
    29 май 2006
    Сообщения:
    4.341
    Симпатии:
    5.850
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Адрес:
    N.Ireland
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I'm not sure if you are reading the correct document, but we are talking about the Old Station Inn at Blackmoor, which is not owned by the Grobs. The statement is from 23rd May this year (so a long time after PP had been granted)

    Keith
     
    35B нравится это.
  20. SpudUk

    SpudUk Well-Known Member

    Дата регистрации:
    5 фев 2009
    Сообщения:
    1.736
    Симпатии:
    597
    Пол:
    Мужской
    Род занятий:
    Project Manager
    Адрес:
    Wales
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    I believe it might be a variation to more recent planning application (variation) that impacted the Old Station Inn.

    For what it's worth, I'd have thought the Old Station Inn would be a significantly better business proposition with the railway then without it
     

Поделиться этой страницей