4498 SNG Crewe - S&C - Carlisle - Shap - Crewe Private members charter 21/05/22

You can argue for/suggest/wish for/demand any colour you like. At the end of the day, SNG's livery is decided by the members of the SNGLT. If you want to have a real say in the matter, join the trust as a member or 'friend' (monthly contributions) and maybe even buy a boiler tube for the next overhaul.

Details here

https://sirnigelgresley.org.uk/membership-a.shtml

 

Just got an email (with tickets) to say the loaded test was a complete success and (so far) it's all systems go for Saturday!

 

Nah, far too many GWR green locos already, but not enough blue ones ;-)

 

And which livery for how long from 1967 on?

 

All covered here...
https://sirnigelgresley.org.uk/hist-a.shtml

 

BR Blue is her USP, and was quite rightly voted for by the membership, at the livery poll.
I am sure the Crewe paint shop will do a first class job.

 

Any idea why the down run is on RTT https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U63011/2022-05-21/detailed but not the up run?

 

looks like the stock comes back in at 15.50, so it shouldn't hang around for too long, maybe a 16.00 departure ?

 

Correct
Water at Carnforth a 1715 dep 1744.
Then non stop to Crewe, arrive 1933.

 

This https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:C26852/2022-05-21/detailed looks like loco and support coach alone going out to turn, leaving the rest of the train temporarily in the station, then https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U63012/2022-05-21/detailed taking the train out of the way until just before the return departure. That suggests no diesel on the back; otherwise it would be easier to take the whole train straight out to Upperby.
Edit@ see subsequent clarifications.

 

The first set of times is the RTC CME turning move not 60007.

Andrew

 

Saphos, no diesel, that'll be the day.

 

OK, thanks for the clarifications. I wasn't at all sure what was what, especially with the return run not showing at all. And I had forgotten that there will be two steam tours arriving at Carlisle close together.

 

Has to have a diesel as it will have air con mk2s.

 

I also guess as a first tour back a diesel on something like the WCML may give some extra insurance in case of issues.

 

I've been on a Saphos steam tour using a mix of Mk1s and air con Mk2s where there was no diesel (Dec 2018 to Burnley); a genny car was included in the consist IIRC.

But having said that, I agree it would be wise to have a tailgunner given it's SNG's first proper run since overhaul.

 

Mr Hoskings private train is out this weekend so presumably the Genny will be with that since it has 2 non ETH 37s

 

If you mean BR green then I agree with you wholeheartedly.

 

They've got a perfectly good generator car. The last unassisted run from them was last July on the Bristol Forty.

 

Return times .https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:U63013/2022-05-21/detailed