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Vintage Trains 20/02/2010 - "the Great Western Incursion.

Rasprava u 'What's Going On' pokrenuta od Pete Thornhill, 30. Prosinac 2009..

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  1. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    I'm rather looking forward to the inauguaral sapperton Challenge !

    May I suggest a pool from 34067 , 5043 , 5690 and maybe an A4 and lets see with the same load who performs the best

    Any railtour operator up for it ?
     
    Sidmouth, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    cg Well-Known Member

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    ben, thanks for that.

    it was one place i had thought of viewing the train, but am unable to drive, or change camera lenes at the monment.
     
    cg, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    If you insist but I suspect you'd need two to my one. :)
     
    Spamcan81, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    I see you've disqualified BR before we even start. 71000 would need to be added for fairness and I'd suggest 6233 rather than 5690.
     
    Spamcan81, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    Surely if we are keeping with the GWR approach to such trials, 5043 is too new, 3440 gets a boiler washout and a lick of paint and thrashes the rest of them!
     
    6024KEI, 22. Veljača 2010.
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  7. Sidmouth

    Sidmouth Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator

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    My error

    70013 instead of 71000 and maybe 46100/46115 instead of 5690 , to give an all class 7 comparison
     
    Sidmouth, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    Only because you'd want to bring along a cannon. :)
     
    Nick Gough, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    Am pretty sure that all these (or similar of their type) have already been over Sapperton in preservation times without breaking any special records - why do we need a contest??

    the GW locos are the only ones which fit the local countryside who needs the others? - they get plenty of use elsewhere!
     
    1472, 22. Veljača 2010.
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  10. Pete Thornhill

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    4965 & 5043 are running over the same route again in May and so is 70013 except of course 70013 is returning via the Lickey!
     
    Pete Thornhill, 22. Veljača 2010.
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    saltydog Part of the furniture

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    Well 70013 will be going this way in May, but there again the Brits were only what Swindon would have produced as a Pacific if Nationalisation hadn't happened.(Purely my personal observation).
    http://www.vintagetrains.co.uk/vt2010_0529.htm
     
    saltydog, 22. Veljača 2010.
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  12. Hallman

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    [QUOTE Saltydog]Well 70013 will be going this way in May, but there again the Brits were only what Swindon would have produced as a Pacific if Nationalisation hadn't happened.(Purely my personal observation).QUOTE]

    Salty, I cannot agree with you on this. Swindon would never have designed a "Brit". They didn't like outside valve gear (the 15xx's were not the best panniers that Swindon produced), enclosed cabs, ergonomic drivers controls, driving from left side, a great sound from whistles and smoke deflectors. If Swindon had been asked to produced a class 7 Pacific they would have just stuck a pair of wheels under the footplate of a Castle.
     
    Hallman, 24. Veljača 2010.
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    How many 0-6-0's have outside valve gear though (not just GWR types) the 15XX's have a much shorter wheelbase so not really comparable to a 57XX or 94XX, i certainly get the impression that Hawksworth would of updated a few things had BR not been looming large.

    I was always under the impression any GWR Pacific would of been an enlarged King/Princess Royal lookalike with Swindon fittings & controls.
     
    david1984, 24. Veljača 2010.
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    Even better then! :D
     
    Ben Jervis, 24. Veljača 2010.
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    I would much rather have 1501 over a 57xx any day. Easy to oil up, You dont have to clamber over the inside valve gear to yet another GW oiling pint which is inside, More room in the cab since the rear driver springs arent in the way all the time. You can sense with 1501 there is a lot of power in there. It quite fun to be on the footplate and have a very bouncy ride.
     
    Southernman99, 25. Veljača 2010.
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    Well after seeing 34067 totally flatten Sapperton a year or so ago I'd put my money on that - surprisingly. I went there to see it, rather sadistically hoping for a flambuoyant display of it slithering and slipping up the bank, but err, no - it just flew up significantly faster than anything else I've ever seen go up there. The western stuff is always guaranteed to sound good though!
     
    Mighty Mogul, 26. Veljača 2010.
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  17. fireboxchaser

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    Why oh why cant we just enjoy the sight/sound of a locomotive (any locomotive) doing its job out on the network and celebrate this?

    FC
     
    fireboxchaser, 26. Veljača 2010.
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    Hear, hear! (And smell, smell, see, see.)
     
    sunstream, 26. Veljača 2010.
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