Vintage Trains 20/02/2010 - "the Great Western Incursion.

ben, thanks for that.

it was one place i had thought of viewing the train, but am unable to drive, or change camera lenes at the monment.

 

If you insist but I suspect you'd need two to my one.

 

I see you've disqualified BR before we even start. 71000 would need to be added for fairness and I'd suggest 6233 rather than 5690.

 

Finally got my picture on Sapperton loaded.

http://www.railpictures.net/viewphoto.php?id=315085&nseq=19


Thanks to all involved - a most impressive sight and sound


STEVE

 

Surely if we are keeping with the GWR approach to such trials, 5043 is too new, 3440 gets a boiler washout and a lick of paint and thrashes the rest of them!

 

Only because you'd want to bring along a cannon.

 

Am pretty sure that all these (or similar of their type) have already been over Sapperton in preservation times without breaking any special records - why do we need a contest??

the GW locos are the only ones which fit the local countryside who needs the others? - they get plenty of use elsewhere!

 

Well 70013 will be going this way in May, but there again the Brits were only what Swindon would have produced as a Pacific if Nationalisation hadn't happened.(Purely my personal observation).
http://www.vintagetrains.co.uk/vt2010_0529.htm

 

[QUOTE Saltydog]Well 70013 will be going this way in May, but there again the Brits were only what Swindon would have produced as a Pacific if Nationalisation hadn't happened.(Purely my personal observation).QUOTE]

Salty, I cannot agree with you on this. Swindon would never have designed a "Brit". They didn't like outside valve gear (the 15xx's were not the best panniers that Swindon produced), enclosed cabs, ergonomic drivers controls, driving from left side, a great sound from whistles and smoke deflectors. If Swindon had been asked to produced a class 7 Pacific they would have just stuck a pair of wheels under the footplate of a Castle.

 

How many 0-6-0's have outside valve gear though (not just GWR types) the 15XX's have a much shorter wheelbase so not really comparable to a 57XX or 94XX, i certainly get the impression that Hawksworth would of updated a few things had BR not been looming large.

I was always under the impression any GWR Pacific would of been an enlarged King/Princess Royal lookalike with Swindon fittings & controls.

 

Even better then!

 

I would much rather have 1501 over a 57xx any day. Easy to oil up, You dont have to clamber over the inside valve gear to yet another GW oiling pint which is inside, More room in the cab since the rear driver springs arent in the way all the time. You can sense with 1501 there is a lot of power in there. It quite fun to be on the footplate and have a very bouncy ride.

 

Well after seeing 34067 totally flatten Sapperton a year or so ago I'd put my money on that - surprisingly. I went there to see it, rather sadistically hoping for a flambuoyant display of it slithering and slipping up the bank, but err, no - it just flew up significantly faster than anything else I've ever seen go up there. The western stuff is always guaranteed to sound good though!

 

Why oh why cant we just enjoy the sight/sound of a locomotive (any locomotive) doing its job out on the network and celebrate this?

FC

 

Hear, hear! (And smell, smell, see, see.)