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46233 Duchess of Sutherland.

Rasprava u 'Steam Traction' pokrenuta od keith6233, 20. Siječanj 2011..

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  1. keith6233

    keith6233 Member

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    Latest updates at .http://www.prclt.co.uk/New_6233_Overhaul.htm they seem to be cracking on with it.
     
    keith6233, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  2. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    I see that PRCLT are offering supporters and the general public a chance to vote (for a small fee) on the livery for the 1st 12 months after she returns to service.


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    RalphW, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  3. green five

    green five Resident of Nat Pres

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    Very impressive progress on 6233.
     
    green five, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  4. Steve from GWR

    Steve from GWR Well-Known Member

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    I think I'll vote for green
     
    Steve from GWR, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  5. williamfj2

    williamfj2 Member

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    BR Blue for me, now a line up of 6023, 60007 & 46233 all in BR blue certainly would be a nice antidote to BR black & green.
     
    williamfj2, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  6. Neil_Scott

    Neil_Scott Part of the furniture

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    I always think the blue looks a little too bright on the Duchess', BR green would be nice...
     
    Neil_Scott, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  7. Steve from GWR

    Steve from GWR Well-Known Member

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    You're right, that would be brilliant :)
     
    Steve from GWR, 13. Veljača 2011.
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  8. M5.

    M5. New Member

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    Bring back Can Pac aswell
     
    M5., 14. Veljača 2011.
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  9. paullad1984

    paullad1984 Member

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    BR Crimson or LMS Black
     
    paullad1984, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  10. Dan Hill

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    Did 46233 carry the maroon that 46229 carried during the 1990's. If so I wouldn't mind that. BR Express Blue sounds nice.
     
    Dan Hill, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  11. LMS2968

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    Much as I agree with you, I think you'll find you're wrong.
     
    LMS2968, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  12. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    What 6:05 special has said is as quoted on the PMR website, so what do you know that is different.
     
    RalphW, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  13. S.A.C. Martin

    S.A.C. Martin Part of the furniture

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    I'm fairly certain, like many of the pre-nationalization designs up and down the country, 46233 had "BRITISH RAILWAYS" on its tender prior to being repainted into the blue in 1950, specifically in the period 1948-1950. It's a fair bet that most, if not all, of the top link express engines had that legend on their tenders.

    There will always be exceptions, mind! :)
     
    S.A.C. Martin, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  14. LMS2968

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    Whatever the options actually available, it's only a matter of time before someone suggests Malachite Green or some such. There is a pattern that must be followed!
     
    LMS2968, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  15. Neil_Scott

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    Why not paint it black with 'sunshine' lettering for the number and LMS letters along with a silly number?....
     
    Neil_Scott, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  16. LMS2968

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    21C 33?
     
    LMS2968, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  17. Jonno854

    Jonno854 New Member

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    Whilst I'd dearly like to see her in blue, suspect that I will be heavily outvoted by the green brigade. It would be nice if the second highest number of votes got 12 months as well, subject to enough funds being raised to cover the cost.

    On a slightly different tangent, I also thought that if a class of loco carried a livery but the particular working preserved example/s didn't wear said colours, the livery should still be fair game for such loco. A good example is LNER silver or apple green on an A4. This would leave the following liveries available for Sutherland (corrections/additions welcome);

    LMS crimson
    LMS wartime black
    LMS postwar black
    LMS experimental grey/blue
    LMS black with 'British Railways' branding (see page Power of the Duchesses)
    LMS black with cycling lion (ditto)
    British Railways lined experimental black
    BR experimental ultramarine (yes please)
    BR standard blue
    BR green (2 totems)
    BR crimson
    BR maroon
    Oh and photographic grey if you will...

    Thats 14 variations - enough for two full mainline tickets at twelve months per livery!
     
    Jonno854, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  18. Steve from GWR

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    Well while I was out today on the Cathedrals Express, I was inspired to a new idea. A bit non-traditional, I realise, but a bold imaginative statement by the loco's owners is just what's needed in these straitened times. What could better revive the public's interest in heritage steam loco's........

    Various steam pics videos Jan-Feb 2011 084 small.JPG

    Though perhaps it would suit Tangmere better :)
     
    Steve from GWR, 14. Veljača 2011.
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  19. RalphW

    RalphW Nat Pres stalwart Staff Member Administrator Friend

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    I was talking to a friend yesterday who has seen 6233s boiler at Crewe, he said that everyone who has seen it has remarked what excellent condition it is in considering the age and time since last overhaul. This shot from their website does bear this out. A completion date for the repairs needed was said to be Sept, but that is completely unofficial.


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    RalphW, 19. Veljača 2011.
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  20. 46118

    46118 Part of the furniture

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    Taken from "The Power of the Duchesses" by Jenkinson:

    -To traffic 7/38. Principal changes: Double chimney 3/41. Smoke deflectors 10/48.

    -Livery changes: Red 7/38. "Wartime livery"-never. LMS Black 1947. BR Blue 8/50. Green 5/57. BR Standard green 2/61.

    So there are the historical accurate choices, but as ever, "owner's perogative" !
     
    46118, 19. Veljača 2011.
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