If you register, you can do a lot more. And become an active part of our growing community. You'll have access to hidden forums, and enjoy the ability of replying and starting conversations.

1st Gen TGV retirment

Discussion in 'Diesel & Electric Traction' started by odc, Mar 5, 2020.

Tags:
  1. odc

    odc Member

    Joined:
    Apr 11, 2006
    Messages:
    761
    Likes Received:
    28
    Occupation:
    Network Technician at St Albans School
    Location:
    Hemel Hempstead
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Whilst "Modern Traction" isn't really my bag I thought I was surprised there has been no mention that the 1st Generation of the French TGV trains are in the process of being retired and that along with celebrating almost 40 years of service one of the original units has been re-painted into the original iconic orange livery to mark the occasion.

    One of several pictures can be found on Railpicures.net: https://railpictures.net/photo/726885/
     
  2. MellishR

    MellishR Resident of Nat Pres Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2009
    Messages:
    6,665
    Likes Received:
    4,083
    What was wrong with the first generation of Eurostars for them last so much less time than the first generation of TGVs?
     
  3. 1729

    1729 New Member

    Joined:
    Aug 14, 2019
    Messages:
    38
    Likes Received:
    36
    Location:
    Hampshire
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Think having 3rd rail capability and then it not being needed made them over complicated. Shame though was proven they could be used on other mainlines with GNER service
     
    Wenlock likes this.
  4. 5944

    5944 Resident of Nat Pres

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2006
    Messages:
    6,667
    Likes Received:
    4,673
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Train Maintainer for GTR at Hornsey
    Location:
    Letchworth
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    No I do not currently volunteer
    The tunnel is quite damp as well apparently, so that hasn't helped them either.
     
    Wenlock likes this.
  5. Daddsie71b

    Daddsie71b Member Friend

    Joined:
    Apr 4, 2013
    Messages:
    613
    Likes Received:
    543
    Gender:
    Male
    Location:
    34091
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    Obviously the leasing companies have looked at the engineering options, but take out the overhead stuff and 3rd rail stock for the London Weymouth/Brighton/Portsmouth services. Or is there a gauging issue?
     
  6. Romsey

    Romsey Part of the furniture

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2007
    Messages:
    3,133
    Likes Received:
    1,273
    Gender:
    Male
    Occupation:
    Retired SPM
    Location:
    Close to Spike Island
    Heritage Railway Volunteer:
    Yes I am an active volunteer
    They are wider than UK stock, which is why they had retracting foot steps to avoid trimming platforms across Kent. The stepping difference at Waterloo was designed for 373's and was wider than UK domestic stock. ( There were special train crew instructions to "mind the wide gap" for the route learning saloons before Waterloo International opened.) I think that they ran as out of gauge trains ( 1X-- ) on the ECML with a host of restrictions and line prohibitions.
    Also their power consumption was considerably higher than any other 3rd rail stock and required a complete power supply equipment upgrade between Dollands Moor and Waterloo via Maidstone East and Sevenoaks.

    Cheers, Neil
     
    Daddsie71b likes this.

Share This Page