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Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by martin1656, Oct 11, 2017.

  1. torgormaig

    torgormaig Active Member

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    That's a pity. FS123 asked a question that many of us would like to hear your answer to.

    Peter
     
  2. Leafent

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    The only issue is that the Mid Hants doesn't own 499.
     
  3. torgormaig

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    And Swanage do not own the Bullieds

    Peter
     
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    They don’t own 41312 either, but there’s no reason something couldn’t be agreed between both railways and the respective loco owners.

    But I was only joking, unlikely to happen.
     
  5. stephenvane

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    As stated above they have entered a new agreement for the five Bulleids, which includes the right to hire them out.
     
  6. Bean-counter

    Bean-counter Part of the furniture

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    My greatest memories of Bulleids (and I too am a shareholder in SLL) is that they can consume quite a bit of coal, especially if you try to put a 'Midland back-end' in them :)!

    Different locos appeal to different people, especially enthusiasts, and a Bulleid is big, usually green and has a name but I am not sure the appeal to most passengers would justify the extra fuel and weight on the infrastructure. Some big locos do, and something in reserve power-wise is always useful but smaller locos can be more economical.

    Steven
     
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  7. torgormaig

    torgormaig Active Member

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    But if you have nothing else available..........

    Peter
     
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    Quite Pete, quite - and some experiments by Alf soon showed a thin fire that looked as though it was going out also worked, even if he scared his driver half to death while doing so.........

    Steven
     
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    One of the great strengths of the Bulleids in regular service, and perhaps their weakness in preservation, was that they were and are tolerant of having a big old fire put in and, as long as it's kept fed, they'll steam. Particularly in the latter days, with a lot of inexperienced crews, I suspect this unfussiness was very welcome.

    However, they don't have to be fired like that. At least one of the regular firemen in BR days (I forget the name, he'd have been either Nine Elms or Salisbury) had a reputation for running a very thin fire, firing little and often to catch any incipient holes. In fact, so the story went, a fireman relieving him at Salisbury on a Waterloo-Exeter once insisted that the fire left in the engine was totally inadequate. 'It is not,' came the (approximate) response, 'I'll take it the rest of the way to prove it.' And so he did, over Honiton and all. I can't remember if the response of the other fireman was recorded in the story.

    There is, incidentally, an interesting blog post on 30120 running at the Battlefield Line which suggests she behaves best with a well-filled box.
     
  10. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Seems I may not be on Paul’s “ignore” list after all. :)
    Not sure what to make of you liking my quoted post though Paul. Curioser and curioser as someone once said.
     
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    It means I get the full half hour argument rather than just the five minute one... :)
     
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    Are you still on holiday? ;) :) Come the revolution I have a dream of seeing a Bulleid 2-8-2 at Smallbrook Junction...
     
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    Why, can you tell? :D
     
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    That's the spirit, love the way that Paul pitches up in a thread and the entertainment begins, I'm sure that he is doing it for the fun-factor now.......;)

    Cheers,

    Alan
     
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    martin1656 Resident of Nat Pres

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    HAHA, but i'm sure Alex can more than hold his own in any argument, just start him on why should you floss vs fluoride toothpaste and direction of brushing i bet he's even written a paper on it
     
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    Don't know what you are going on about. This is just why I replied privately.

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    Most crews at Swanage fill a Bulleid up to the doors and it uses no more coal than a thin fire. In fact I believe that's the official line in the training for them. It might be a lot to get going but it burns slower if controlled with the damper and keeps a more even temperature in the firebox with less chance of holes burning through.
     
  18. Big Al

    Big Al Resident of Nat Pres Staff Member Moderator Friend

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    This thread is about the T9 so I won't expand but enough to say that a Bulleid with a big fire under the brick arch can get you into quite a lot of trouble on the ML if you are not careful.
     
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    Leader surely, they were to replace M7's and suchlike?
     
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    News to me
     
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