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45231 for sale

Discussion in 'Steam Traction' started by 46118, Oct 8, 2014.

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  1. acorb

    acorb Part of the furniture

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    Don't forget a B1 is also cleared for 75mph, a big advantage on today's busy railway.
     
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  2. ADB968008

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    with 45596, 45690, 45699, 61264, 61306 and 73096, 75mph class 5's might start putting a bit of pressure on the business of 60mph certified black 5s in a few years
     
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    Especially as 45690 now looks like a Black 5...
     
    andrewshimmin, Oct 17, 2014
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  4. mike1522

    mike1522 Long Time Member Friend

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    This livery of 45690 is going to go on I'm afraid. I was just thinking that BR Blue earlier today would have been really nice .
     
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  5. Spamcan81

    Spamcan81 Nat Pres stalwart

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    Jubilees are class 6 or are they only rated as a 5 on the modern railway?
     
    Spamcan81, Oct 17, 2014
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  6. ADB968008

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    it's says 6P on the tin, but when built it was 5XP..

    isn't a Jubilee just a Black 5 with a bit of extra acceleration ?

    Wiki says : 26,610 lb TE for a Jubilee vs 25,455lb for a Black 5..
    Jubilees have slightly bigger wheels where as Black 5s have bigger Cylinders.

    So if it were a bloke, I guess a Jubilee is a 6ft with trainers, vs a 5'8 with shoes...
     
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  7. Spamcan81

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    LMS power classifications differed slightly from BR. The LMS Pacifics were 7P but became 8P under the BR system. IIRC the Scots were 6P under LMS but 7P under BR. So the Jubs were classed 5XP as they were more than a 5 but less than a 6 under the LMS system but became a 6 under BR.
     
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    When I went to pay for my place on the lottery syndicate at work today the guy who runs it worked out that if we won the Euro millions tonight we would each get £4 million. He asked me what I would buy and I instantly thought of 45231 at the top of my shopping list......... So fingers crossed for tonight:D
     
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    Yes, but the Jubilees had three of them against the Black 'uns' two.
     
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    Is that you with fingers crossed? Or Mr Hitchen?!
     
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  11. Steammemories

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    I believe the Black gives were referred to by crews as 'baby jubilees'. There was a black five runnin at the KWVR steam spectacular last weekend, 45305. Picture on

    http://steammemories.blogspot.co.uk/
     
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  12. std tank

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    No, the only babies were the rebuilt Patriots. These were called baby Scots.
     
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    Never heard that one. On a comparison basis, most crews preferred a Black 'un anyway. Such a derogatory term is most unlikely.
     
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    Acquired by Jeremy Hosking, according to the latest stop press in the RM.
     
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    Tadaaaaaa! Yeah.
     
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    The rumour mill has been running this story for a few weeks now.
     
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    I suppose the lack of a Black 5 was a bit of a gap in the collection!
     
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    Apologies for posting old news! Hadn't read it on here before but it must have escaped me.
     
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    How soon before another gets added, given their versatility, especially when paired?
     
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    Don't think it was posted on here previously.
     
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