46115 Scots Guardsman

Didn't it say in a recent Heritage Railway that if 6100 did need smoke deflectors they probably wouldn't be to the LMS pattern. It was suggested that they LMS type aren't particularly efficient. Alternatives mentioned were Brittania style or A3 style (!)

 

I always liked to see 46106 with the straight sided 'blinkers', even though Scots looked good with or without
smoke deflectors IMHO.

 

By coincidence, 46115 was the first rebuilt Scot to be fitted with smoke deflectors, in 1947. A result of the double chimney, less fierce exhaust, and drifting smoke. The rebuilt locos were not generally fitted with deflectors until 1950.

Have to disagree about the Standard deflectors fitted to 46106. I dont think they looked the part at all.

Livery? 46115 qualifies for the post-war express livery of gloss black with maroon and straw lining, but other liveries carried experimentally by the Scots included 46139 in LNER green and 46121 in black with LNWR style lining.

On the subject of 46100 and crimson livery, Jenkinson in "The Power of the Royal Scots" sums it up neatly by saying "This engine is now preserved at Bressingham in a spurious version of the pre-war LMS crimson lake". Enough said I think.

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Great to see her on the front cover of Railway Mag but why put metal pipe down one side of the running plate. Surely it would be better to hide it under the running plate out of view. This piping dose no favors for the looks of the loco. ](*,) ](*,)

 

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In fact some of the the rebuilt engines did have that small piping run fitted to the outside of the vertical drop of the running plate, on the left-hand (drivers side) of the loco. However on photographs of the rebuilt Scots in service the piping disappears under the running plate infront of the piston-valve cover, rather than continuing down the angle of the framing as on the photo of 46115 in Railway Herald.
Anyone know what that pipe is for out of curiosity?

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The pipe is electrical conduit for the AWS. It carries the cable from the receiver, which was mounted on the bogie, to the cab.

 

Moving away from this livery nonsense can somebody tell me what work was required on 46115 as I recall Pete Waterman saying she was in a very bad way when at Crewe.

 

Heavy application of green paint was all that was required (structual type)

 

Er.............

 

I do not know the details of the actual work carried out, but one can assume that it has had a heavy general overhaul.

 

i really cant wait to see one of these other than in pictures! i was not around when they ran

 

Ok I will try again............What kind of work was involved in this overhaul? Was 46115 stripped right down to the frames as it was mentioned somewhere that they were cracked. She must have had one of the most comprehensive overhauls of recent times as she was taken out of action for being in a very poor state. I'm just interested in what's been done that's all.

 

so far as i know when it last ran mainline it was only taken off because of a changein boiler req.i.e.it had to be lifted out of the frames

 

46115's steamings came to an end when a flue tube collapsed during a steaming at the Dinting Railway Centre.
Fortunately the incident did not, as far as I recall, cause further damage or any injuries.

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Thanks for the bits of info folks. I am really looking forward to seeing both the Scots in action.

 

Uncertain about the loco, but certainly members of the footplate crew were indeed injured as a result of the flue collapse, ask one Mr R.Preston for details..... #-o

 

That would be 6697.