Resurrecting this thread after a while, I saw on the Saturday Gang page that both 23 and 30/1638 are now out of traffic, 4253 and 5668 are being restored, 21 & 25 are being ovehauled, and of course 24 has left. I think of the loco's capable of pulling 5 coaches that only leaves 6619 and 22/65 in service? Is that enough? Will any of the loco's being worked on be ready for next year, presumably 25 will be back then. As an aside if anyone else is looking for quirky Christmas presents check out the 4253 site, most of my family will be adding salt and pepper to their meals next year curtesy of 4253 boiler rods!