60007: The London Christmas Express 28/11/09

The Green train doesn't have very much in some coaches.....

 

If WCR were to through wire or even better ETH fit that Mk1 RMB in the Green Train, it would be dual heated.
Then all they would need is a green ETH Crompton to re-create the Ocean Liner Expresses.
The stock would get more use, wich is only good for Mk2s.

 

You just suggested adding a diesel,big mistake!

 

I do get rather tired, trying to explain what WCR can offer, especially to those who think they know more about our stock and operations, than we do!

Most but not all of our Mk1s (and the Green set) are actually steam-heated. Where steam-heat is not possible, however, such as when air-braked Mk2s are included in a formation, we need to provide an eth source, which can either be the genny van, No. 6312, or an eth loco, on the rear.

Where we can avoid it, we prefer to form steam sets with Mk1s and not include a diesel on the rear, but we will never guarantee it, absolutely; there are also occasions, when operational or pathing needs dictate that a diesel needs be included, on the rear.

Given either a diesel or a rejection of a tour, I think the choice is obvious, to the majority; if the level and variety of steam operations are to continue, on the main line, compromises are necessary.

If Palace Gates and his pals don't like it, that's up to them.

James S
WCR

 

I'm sure that RTC/WCRC will be really gutted not getting your custom.

 

Adding a Diesel to what?

There you go, jumping to conclusions again!

I will state again; if the Green Train had working ETH, allowing its use with diesel locomotives, it could be used more during the winter months. Which can only be good for Mk2 coaches with their fussy pressure vent heating systems, that don't like sitting oround not being used.

So, where did I suggest adding a Diesel to a Steam tour????

 

I think twr12 means something like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34620706@N02/3995963203/

(but in green!)

Cheers
Alan

 

And whats wrong with suggesting a diesel?

 

I would just like to make one further point in that my reasoning is not against the tour operator.They have provided excellent trips over the years and at one time were pushing the boundaries as to what was being offered after Days Out collapsed.No, it is with the TOC who in my opinion change things at the last minuate.

 

Plan to go and see Sir Nigel at Wood Walton hill . Will be able to watch her depart from the Connington water stop . Hope the weather holds until tomorrow for a good pic !
Anyone else planning to go lineside ?

 

Given the number of steam tours running this weekend, I'm impressed that there are still enough sets of coaches and experienced crews to operate them all. WCRC and the rest are going to be busy this weekend.

 

Should be interesting at Colton tomorrow:
Thanks to Scott Spencer/Runcorn Sprog

Southbound:
60007 at 09:08
Class 325 mail at 14:35

Northbound:
DRS 37'sx2 at 11.18
??? at 11.13
5690 at 12:30

Cheers,
Mark

 

Does anyone no what platform she is likely to go through Finsbury Park?

 

Reported right time away from Newcastle this morning. <BJ>

 

22 Late arr at Retford

Update:
Left Retford 13 late

 

60007

Running about 20 minutes down but made a beautiful sight as it accelerated across the fens at Yaxley. I'll upload an image shortly.

 

I see she is in fine form

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lqg8b7ShL0I


No diesel on the back just a gen car?

 

She made the time up to being only about 5 late overtaking the sunshine at Hatfield

 

Poetry in motion - nice work SD!